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shinogami	2012-06-11 , 14:18
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Originally Posted by late88

I'm struggling with this problem too. I don't know how it is even possible to fcuk things up like that. I definetly would be fired myself if I messed so badly here in the office (software company).

And it's not like it's a one time thing. It's more like the rule that downloads/updates from the store don't work on first try. Indeed a good solution to kill Ovi and move to the Microsoft app market. Clearly Nokia can no longer even maintain a software repository.

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	late88	2012-06-11 , 14:22
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Originally Posted by rainisto

you can always download the deb from the web site by appeding /download to url, and then install the deb manually by hand using pkgmgr install-file. From commandline you will also see the reasons for failure.

Of course many advanced users know how to get the updates if store update fails.

I think most of the end users rely on the store updates. Many have no clue or interest to look somewhere else. They might just fed up the whole nokia brand and move to another manufacturer if something isn't working. In nokia point of view, you have no choice but make it work. Like they can afford losing more users.

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shinogami	2012-06-11 , 14:32
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Originally Posted by late88

Of course many advanced users know how to get the updates if store update fails.

I think most of the end users rely on the store updates. Many have no clue or interest to look somewhere else. They might just fed up the whole nokia brand and move to another manufacturer if something isn't working. In nokia point of view, you have no choice but make it work. Like they can afford losing more users.

Exactly. With my 2 or so years with iPhone 3GS not once did a download/update from the App store fail. Why is this so difficult for Nokia to reproduce? I assume Apple's store has at least a thousand fold more traffic..

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	late88	2012-06-11 , 14:42
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Originally Posted by shinogami

Exactly. With my 2 or so years with iPhone 3GS not once did a download/update from the App store fail. Why is this so difficult for Nokia to reproduce? I assume Apple's store has at least a thousand fold more traffic..

Really don't know why it is so difficult. Personally I think it's embarrasing for nokia. Maybe all the employees are on a summer holiday and they left the whole repository to be taken care of by secretary or a cleaner.

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abill_uk	2012-06-11 , 14:48
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This is the same old story we had with the N900 so nothing has changed and in fact it is getting worse.

The best of us have already well and truly left Nokia so it is just another nail in there coffin.

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	late88	2012-06-11 , 14:55
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Originally Posted by abill_uk

This is the same old story we had with the N900 so nothing has changed and in fact it is getting worse.

The best of us have already well and truly left Nokia so it is just another nail in there coffin.

Yeah, that's very bad attitude towards customers, like the don't give a f... anymore. It would be different case if it was just temporary.

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rainisto	2012-06-11 , 15:05
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99.9% of times this end users fault(/3rd party app that modifies repositiories), he has enabled developer mode and ****ed up the repositories, and/or installed something from custom repoes that messes up depencies.

Competing platforms don't have that many source.list problems because system is locked. If N9 wouldn't have developer-mode and noway to edit repoes, then most of the problems would go away too, but ofcourse you can proof me wrong:
@shinogami: so you have not enabled developer-mode at all, and have not installed any app outside the store?

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Last edited by rainisto; 2012-06-11 at 15:08.

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shinogami	2012-06-11 , 15:07
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Originally Posted by rainisto

@shinogami: so you have not enabled developer-mode at all, and have not installed any app outside the store?

I have. Nonetheless, this problem was there out-of-the-box. Anyway, care to try the store right now (try to download anything)?

edit. I actually managed to download some pizza online app. However, the first two I tried, FF13 and Front Camera fail repeatedly..

Last edited by shinogami; 2012-06-11 at 15:11.

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rainisto	2012-06-11 , 15:12
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Originally Posted by shinogami

I have. Nonetheless, this problem was there out-of-the-box. Anyway, care to try the store right now (try to dl anything)?

Just tested, installed a new app, works for me just fine -> ovistore as such is not broken at the moment -> cause to your problems lies elsewhere.

EDIT: and now I just tested and updated my current FF11.0.1 to FF13.0.0, and yes that one is claiming error on the loading. I'll check if FF has fuxored depencies or is there some other reason...

Last edited by rainisto; 2012-06-11 at 15:17.

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	late88	2012-06-11 , 15:13
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Originally Posted by rainisto

99.9% of times this end users fault(/3rd party app that modifies repositiories), he has enabled developer mode and ****ed up the repositories, and/or installed something from custom repoes that messes up depencies.

Competing platforms don't have that many source.list problems because system is locked. If N9 wouldn't have developer-mode and noway to edit repoes, then most of the problems would go away too, but ofcourse you can proof me wrong:
@shinogami: so you have not enabled developer-mode at all, and have not installed any app outside the store?

I understand your point rainisto, but for example my uncle, who also own a N9 aren't even capable of installing apps outside the store and he is now fed up all the failing updates so he is changing to apple. I wonder how many more symbian/harmattan users there is like him?