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2007-12-06
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Except that there's nothing anywhere near that problematic on Microb whatsoever so your analogy makes zero sense.
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2007-12-06
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Originally Posted by zerojay
Well, the point I was trying to make (by exaggeration) is that I would expect a "mature" product for day one and not have to wait for it to mature. Don't get me wrong, I do love my N800 and I'm not in hurry to adopt OS2008.
Except that there's nothing anywhere near that problematic on Microb whatsoever so your analogy makes zero sense.
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2007-12-07
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Originally Posted by Jonnycat26
The whole Internet Tablet concept is thrown out too early.
I think throwing it out too early is going to turn people off.
That's why I love it. That's why I hate it.
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2007-12-07
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Originally Posted by dkwatts
Ya, when I purchased my N800 last February, I had very low expectations. I think for that reason I have almost always been very happy with it. I looked around and saw that it cost about what I would have paid for a Skype WIFI phone + an MP3 player. With the N800 that's what I have plus a bunch of fun programs including a Camera. FWIW- I also heard today that Pandora is one web site that does work better with the 08 OS than it does with the 07 OS. Pandora apparently now continues playing instead of having to tap the screen to get it playing again. So I love my nokia. I understand that the whole project is a BETA probably and I'm fine with that because I think I'm already getting my money's worth with it. Heck, around $250 for one now? What a deal. So I think most of this is about what you are expecting when you buy. I understand getting PO'd at Nokia. But I wonder where they would be if they waited until it was 'perfect'. What would define that? I like the dream they seem to have for it. They just seem to be a bit maddening about the process sometimes.
The whole Internet Tablet concept is thrown out too early.
That's why I love it. That's why I hate it.
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2007-12-07
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I'm waiting for an update or hack that will finally let me configure MicroB to do what I was able to do in Opera:
Use the dpad to page-up and page-down through a page. The way it is now is horrible.
I don't understand why the dpad just jumps from link-to-link when there's a friggin TOUCHSCREEN on the device itself that can be used to click links!?!?!?
It should at least be an option one can easily enable via the preferences menu.
Until MicroB gets that functionality then it will always be second-place to Opera.
Use the dpad to page-up and page-down through a page. The way it is now is horrible.
I don't understand why the dpad just jumps from link-to-link when there's a friggin TOUCHSCREEN on the device itself that can be used to click links!?!?!?
It should at least be an option one can easily enable via the preferences menu.
Until MicroB gets that functionality then it will always be second-place to Opera.
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Kicking Nokia in the jimmy, one marketing exec at a time.
Originally Posted by Mr. T
Well maybe Mr. T hacked the game, and made a mowhawk class? And maybe Mr. T is pretty handy with computers? Had that occurred to you Mr. Condescending Director?
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2007-12-07
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Originally Posted by iball
Someone packaged up a DEB to do exactly that and posted a link on bugzilla...also there is a direct hack somewhere on the forum but I can't get it working on OS2007. Do a search.
I'm waiting for an update or hack that will finally let me configure MicroB to do what I was able to do in Opera:
Use the dpad to page-up and page-down through a page. The way it is now is horrible.
I don't understand why the dpad just jumps from link-to-link when there's a friggin TOUCHSCREEN on the device itself that can be used to click links!?!?!?
It should at least be an option one can easily enable via the preferences menu.
Until MicroB gets that functionality then it will always be second-place to Opera.
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2007-12-07
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Originally Posted by phi
I stand corrected.
Someone packaged up a DEB to do exactly that and posted a link on bugzilla...also there is a direct hack somewhere on the forum but I can't get it working on OS2007. Do a search.
Found that link to the excellent how-to hack it, couldn't find the deb.
Still....it should be nothing more than a preferences setting from within the browser itself.
Now...how to get rid of the scrollbars when in full-screen mode? Anyone? Bueller?
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Originally Posted by Mr. T
Well maybe Mr. T hacked the game, and made a mowhawk class? And maybe Mr. T is pretty handy with computers? Had that occurred to you Mr. Condescending Director?
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2007-12-07
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Even though I prefer the microb browser, I miss having choice. Hopefully that webkit project can get up to speed and release on OS2008. The guys working on it seem pretty dedicated, Nokia should send them some free n810's as incentive. With the mobile web (at least inthe US) increasingly iPhone optimized this browser option would be great.
http://blog.gwright.org.uk/articles/...t-and-the-n800
http://blog.gwright.org.uk/articles/...t-and-the-n800
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2007-12-19
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There have been some desktop speed comparisons of Opera vs Mozilla, and opera came out significantly ahead. Granted, it will be different on this platform than on a PC, but I believe the comparison generally is similar. Opera has a few more rendering problems, but is faster.
I prefer Opera myself, but I think both browsers should be available, and could be improved. The small memory footprint and fast response just makes browsing more enjoyable.
Now, if only we could have IE7... *ducks*
I prefer Opera myself, but I think both browsers should be available, and could be improved. The small memory footprint and fast response just makes browsing more enjoyable.
Now, if only we could have IE7... *ducks*
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2007-12-19
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Originally Posted by TA-t3
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There are truths to both sides here. MicroB handles some stuff better than Opera does, but for the stuff that Opera does handle it mostly does it quicker than MicroB and with a smaller memory footprint. (MicroB seems to crash more as well, at least in the OS2007 version. For some of those cases it seems to be linked to running out of memory. So, memory and speed seems to be the main problem compared with Opera. Improved Ajax is the the major point MicroB has over Opera, presumably.)
Well spoken:
Earlier this month I found on my N800 (OS2007: 4.2007.38-2) installation application an upgrade for Microb-browser; now 0.0.8-4 (not sure if version has changed). As a result the MicrOb is even slower (I know: OS 20008...), and does not respond easily to finger scrolling or hyperlink initiating. Too many sites are not displayed correctly, stopping or even unusable, i.e. Reuters or Yahoo Beta, (zooming problems). These are major sites that should run smoothly! Opera a runs these sites (Yahoo old style !) smoothly, but performs for example slow on You tube. This all maybe of course temporary until OS2008 is full-grown.
As I am quite happy with my N800 -I will certainly try the OS 2008. However I am getting somewhat concerned that Opera is not available in OS2008 and that -maybe- I cannot switch back to OS2007 with Opera. Las tweek I issued a FEEDBACK to the Nokia Support Site stressing them to keep OS 2007 available. I think this may be important.