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2018-12-25
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Originally Posted by Kabouik
Yes, to achieve ´ and ¨ you can use ' and " indeed. for example:
Oh right, I didn't even see the ^. Where are the ´ and ¨ though? ¨ usually doesn't have a dedicated key, it's a " which turns into a ¨ if pressed before a compatible letter. Excellent news if dead keys can be supported.
' = á
" = ä
` = à
^ = â
~ = ã
Seems like TMO has resized the image, see full size below:
https://i.imgur.com/fU1Cyvs.png
I wonder what will happen to the 'empty' button. I would go for a circle as a 'Home' button.
See attached image
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2018-12-25
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Originally Posted by HtheB
Well spot.
I wonder what will happen to the 'empty' button. I would go for a circle as a 'Home' button.
See attached image
Yes functionally I want to make that key being "go home" by default. But did not put Android circle as the device is supposed to load other OSes as well and I feel the "circle" will spoil the feel of integrity under other OSes.
So I want to reveal this one when it's formally launched, and hopefully it can be re-mapped for different functions other than just go home.
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2018-12-25
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Originally Posted by chenliangchen
But Circle is pretty generic. I don't think that it will hurt too much if it's a circle.
Well spot.
Yes functionally I want to make that key being "go home" by default. But did not put Android circle as the device is supposed to load other OSes as well and I feel the "circle" will spoil the feel of integrity under other OSes.
So I want to reveal this one when it's formally launched, and hopefully it can be re-mapped for different functions other than just go home.
I'm curious what it will be. (The F logo of Fx?)
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2018-12-25
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I don’t know if it’s too late but I think an orthogonal layout (like the N900 keyboard) is more suitable for thumb typing. Staggered keys just don’t feel natural when you want to flick your thumb from one key to another.
But then again. There is no other modern phone that sports a hardware keyboard.
But then again. There is no other modern phone that sports a hardware keyboard.
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2018-12-26
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Originally Posted by chenliangchen
Great attention to detail, thanks. However silly it is, I can tell how irritating it is to have a Windows key on a computer not running Windows. Blank is just perfect. If it's the only blank, there's no confusion.
Well spot.
Yes functionally I want to make that key being "go home" by default. But did not put Android circle as the device is supposed to load other OSes as well and I feel the "circle" will spoil the feel of integrity under other OSes.
So I want to reveal this one when it's formally launched, and hopefully it can be re-mapped for different functions other than just go home.
Since you mentioned other OSes Chen, do you know already if it will be possible to dual-boot like on the Gemini? Android alongside a community port of Sailfish (hopefully) or Leste would be a nice solution to cope with the lack of Alien Dalvik. It would be a bit more cumbersome for users who use Alien Dalvik frequently, but then having something more recent than 4.4 would outweigh the cost and allow a much wider range of applications.
Originally Posted by HtheB
You're absolutely right. I was so focused on the fact that I couldn't see the ' that I got myself confused and just forgot how it is on a Qwerty keyboard (I don't have default keycaps anymore so I didn't even check on mine). But since the extra comma should be a ', no problem.
Yes, to achieve ´ and ¨ you can use ' and " indeed. for example:
' = á
" = ä
` = à
^ = â
~ = ã
Originally Posted by Ariadeno
It was discussed several times during the earlier steps of the project, but feedback on the Moto Mod led Chen to go for the staggered layout. I was all for the orthogonal layout as well since I think it's better for position awareness without looking, but on the other hand, if people were massively asking for staggered layout on the Moto Mod, then it might very well be the best option to secure sales here, which is by far the most important to make the ReadyFx a success; and perhaps the beginning of a longer story.
I don’t know if it’s too late but I think an orthogonal layout (like the N900 keyboard) is more suitable for thumb typing. Staggered keys just don’t feel natural when you want to flick your thumb from one key to another.
But then again. There is no other modern phone that sports a hardware keyboard.
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2018-12-26
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Originally Posted by nodevel
Ah ? Thanks about this, I always thougth it was e-link ...
Just a quick comment:
AFAIK, Pebble does not have an e-ink display (no Pebble variation had it, be it color or b&w). Some website may simplify it as such (also could be good marketing of Pebble, calling it "e-paper"), but it is an LCD display.
See:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Pebb...n/13319#s45410
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Pebb...Teardown/42382
Originally Posted by Kabouik
Don't forget the AZERTY layout !
No clear confirmation of the available layouts at launch, but the newsletter does say that Qwertz or Scandic layouts will be easy to get by just swapping a few keys. My guess is it would be done in the factory and not by the user, but it's just a guess.
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2018-12-26
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So it’s 4 different layouts? No more no less.
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2018-12-26
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#209
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The picture of the keyboard makes me think is there enough space between the body of the phone and the upper key row? Should be enough space so that it is easy to press the keys.
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2018-12-26
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Originally Posted by Dave999
Yes, and don't forget, on the AZERTY layout, the enter key has a different form than on the other layouts and there is one additional key. Only moving keys is not enough
So it’s 4 different layouts? No more no less.
Of course, this is only joking, if there is only qwerty, I'll still be happy, until I can exchange physical keys and remap the keyboard by myself :>
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