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Originally Posted by ericsson
Isn't that the whole point? Protecting the hardware? So far, Microsoft and Apple are suing HARDWARE manufacturers, instead of suing Google directly. So, by BEING a hardware manufacturer now--one which Microsoft has already started sabre-rattling and threatening already, Google can finally have its opportunity to protect the platform properly.
Google will protect the "Android platform" allright. But how exactly? How is Motorola IP going to protect the OS without also protecting a device that the OS runs on?
Android is out of control right now. ZTE and Huawei plan their own android markets, their own ecosystems, even their own versions of the OS, and there is nothing Google can do to prevent it. With Motorola IP and production facilities they can create their own. There is no other way they can protect their interests.
Also, I do believe that that is the INTENTION--for manufacturers to go off and spin off their own Android variations. Honeycomb was the weird exception to that philosophy (until Ice Cream combines it all together again).
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2011-08-16
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Originally Posted by govprog
Um, not quite sure what you're saying here.
You think that you are offended? No way I'm offending anyone you know.
And I didn't say you are proving something,no.I was proving that MeeGo > WP.
Lost in translation
As for the current versions, they are all the same(In performance hardware and etc.) In the upcoming releases, the hardware will be a little more powerful, or better we say, will be as powerful as the Xperia Play does.And maybe a little more powerful than the N9, but it depends.
For the current hardware, have a look at the samsung focus, and its specifications. For its performance, I have searched the internet but no luck.
EDIT:Yes, I'm recommending the focus as a good WP7 device.
They sound like they'd be ideal candidates to compare to the N9!
Can anyone else recommend a WP, that's roughly similar to the N9 'hardware-wise'?
Aside from Searay, I srsly doubt it'll be available before Dec (if not later).
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http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/15/g...one-ecosystem/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/e...y-acquisition/
Pretty nice SGSII alternative... better all-up IYO?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/m...ton-4g-review/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/e...y-acquisition/
Pretty nice SGSII alternative... better all-up IYO?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/m...ton-4g-review/
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2011-08-16
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Originally Posted by jalyst
The Samsung Omnia 7 is the best windows phone out there, buuuuut not good hardware wise like the n9. You should wait for 2nd gen windows phones if at all.
Thanks, I'll look into those two models....
They sound like they'd be ideal candidates to compare to the N9!
Can anyone else recommend a WP, that's roughly similar to the N9 'hardware-wise'?
Aside from Searay, I srsly doubt it'll be available before Dec (if not later).
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Although apple and microsoft are suing the hardware manufacturers, it's really the software that they are after however they CAN'T sue google directly. I'm not clear on how this works, but because Android is open sourced and is freely distributed and not really used (by them), they are not liable at all to lawsuits regarding the OS. The OEMs instead have to take that liability. Microsoft hopes to 'bully' them into considering windows phone as the other option rather than pay patent licensing using 'free' Android
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2011-08-16
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Originally Posted by ericsson
Here's a GREAT article about this... written by a self-described Apple enthusiast, no less...
Google will protect the "Android platform" allright. But how exactly? How is Motorola IP going to protect the OS without also protecting a device that the OS runs on?
Android is out of control right now. ZTE and Huawei plan their own android markets, their own ecosystems, even their own versions of the OS, and there is nothing Google can do to prevent it. With Motorola IP and production facilities they can create their own. There is no other way they can protect their interests.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...XIJ_story.html
It seems to skirt a lot of the theories and questions we're all mulling about the deal. It EVEN mentions the idea of whether carriers might consider the Windows Mobile platform... but mainly, it's pretty heavy on the idea that this was CLEARLY about the patents (about 20,000 patents now! ...that's more than Microsoft has!) but he does say that it might also be about shaking a stick at competitors--to insist on better build quality and more frequent updates, etc. As a consumer, I WHOLLY welcome that, if that's the case. I love Samsung's hardware, but goddamit if I just f***ing HATE their unbelievably poor turn-around on updates. Motorola has been surprisingly good about updates, though--so this is just perfect already.
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2011-08-16
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Originally Posted by hotnikkelz
Precisely... and now, Google is a hardware manufacturer as well. This fits into what I'd said earlier. Let the games... begin.
Although apple and microsoft are suing the hardware manufacturers, it's really the software that they are after however they CAN'T sue google directly. I'm not clear on how this works, but because Android is open sourced and is freely distributed and not really used (by them), they are not liable at all to lawsuits regarding the OS. The OEMs instead have to take that liability. Microsoft hopes to 'bully' them into considering windows phone as the other option rather than pay patent licensing using 'free' Android
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2011-08-16
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Wow, this is really kinda impressive....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/x...ual-core-soc-a
Are we about to see the rise of mainland china (PRC) handset makers soon?
I'm not aware of a single one... HTC's Taiwanese isn't it?
(with of course, much of it's manufacturing base in China)
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/x...ual-core-soc-a
Are we about to see the rise of mainland china (PRC) handset makers soon?
I'm not aware of a single one... HTC's Taiwanese isn't it?
(with of course, much of it's manufacturing base in China)
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I dont get why they didnt bought Nokia. Cheaper?, vighet marketshare, more patents, plus that would kill win7 for sure.
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Let's face it, it's all been downhill for the N9 since the initial announcement, what with the top brass at Nokia seemingly doing all they can to undermine the device before it's even released. Even I'm not planning to buy one, and I'm spending all my spare time developing for the damn thing. They may as well ship it in a coffin, and be done with it. :/
Trust engadget to point out only the farcical side of the roll-out.
They love focusing on every single negative aspect of Nok/MeeGo.
With the exception of their praise, after their brief N9 hands-on.
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They love focusing on every single negative aspect of Nok/MeeGo.
With the exception of their praise, after their brief N9 hands-on.
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