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2010-02-20
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this sound like a good project, I'll definitly wipe out my internal mem for mer ...
but please dont disable the abiltity to boot vendor firmware (maemo)
is some help needed on the dual boot ?
Finally I did some trick to boot mer inside maemo, using chroot like easy debian
but some stuff are overlapping ... I'll have to check this again
regards and long live to mer !
but please dont disable the abiltity to boot vendor firmware (maemo)
is some help needed on the dual boot ?
Finally I did some trick to boot mer inside maemo, using chroot like easy debian
but some stuff are overlapping ... I'll have to check this again
regards and long live to mer !
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2010-02-20
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Sounds like a plan. I like the rational of aiming for something practicable, which takes the existing tablets forward, as we need something which enables some if not most of the new apps to run on the N810, otherwise I think the platform is at serious risk of dying though neglect.
Right. Before I really start getting into the Mer^2 work I would like to just note a couple of things that will influence things in the future:
* I will be primarily focusing on the N810, not the N800. This means: I won't be spending too much time with the virtual keyboard, I won't be pursuing a stylus keyboard like Fremantle does it. Others are welcome to and patches happily accepted. I need personally to focus and I've decided I'll do this on the N810.
* The final installation will be a complete reflash - I'm not going to spend much time on dual-boot (it may or may not work easily).
* On a N800, you will need to dedicate at least a 2GB SD card permanently seated in the internal SD slot specially partitioned. On N810, we will need to repartition the internal SD.
* The base system will be Debian 5.0 but with a lot of things replaced so it looks (from technical point of view) closer to a Maemo 5.0 installation.
* I will try to seek permission to recompile most of the Fremantle system on top of these ported packages, which will only be legally
available for N800 and N810(W). We'll see how much will work.
* The system will not in any way be 100% open source. We're trying to accomplish it working and possible to use by users on a daily basis, not have an agenda.
* We will need to provide some custom artwork to distinguish between real Maemo and Mer^2 - there should be no brand confusion.
* I will need some Gtk coders to step up to help shape the old hildon-desktop closer to Fremantle interface. It won't be as shiny, but it will perform it's purpose.
If dual boot is possible, then I think you will get more people who are willing to test Mer^2 sooner. Certainly I will. My N810 is my primary device though (although I have an 800 as well), and things like Wayfinder are necessities until we have a working alternative, so a complete reflatten for a work in progress may cause pain.
Good luck STS, and many thanks for all your efforts with Mer and Mer^2. They are highly appreciated by me, and most others I think.
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2010-02-20
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Thanks. Although I would say dual boot if you can.
Right. Before I really start getting into the Mer^2 work I would like to just note a couple of things that will influence things in the future:
* I will be primarily focusing on the N810, not the N800. This means: I won't be spending too much time with the virtual keyboard, I won't be pursuing a stylus keyboard like Fremantle does it. Others are welcome to and patches happily accepted. I need personally to focus and I've decided I'll do this on the N810.
* The final installation will be a complete reflash - I'm not going to spend much time on dual-boot (it may or may not work easily).
* On a N800, you will need to dedicate at least a 2GB SD card permanently seated in the internal SD slot specially partitioned. On N810, we will need to repartition the internal SD.
* The base system will be Debian 5.0 but with a lot of things replaced so it looks (from technical point of view) closer to a Maemo 5.0 installation.
* I will try to seek permission to recompile most of the Fremantle system on top of these ported packages, which will only be legally
available for N800 and N810(W). We'll see how much will work.
* The system will not in any way be 100% open source. We're trying to accomplish it working and possible to use by users on a daily basis, not have an agenda.
* We will need to provide some custom artwork to distinguish between real Maemo and Mer^2 - there should be no brand confusion.
* I will need some Gtk coders to step up to help shape the old hildon-desktop closer to Fremantle interface. It won't be as shiny, but it will perform it's purpose.
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2010-02-21
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* I have an N810
* I'm interested to see and use Mer on my device, particularly installing from Ubuntu repositories and using Tear with updated libraries. This would be a big leap forward for me. Community SSU would be great as well, of course, but the closed-source components tie their hands a bit...
* I'm willing to contribute with feature-level testing for Mer incl contributing to/with bug reports and maybe some simple development work one day.
* If Qt 4.6 came to Mer &/or Diablo, I would then have more motivation to spend my precious free time doing NIT development work. The cross-platform would be a big lure -- I could potentially re-use my work in other contexts.
EDIT: * If Tear libraries could be updated, then I could use DPad Left in an edit box.
Last edited by buurmas; 2010-02-21 at 05:24. Reason: added another comment about Tear
* I'm interested to see and use Mer on my device, particularly installing from Ubuntu repositories and using Tear with updated libraries. This would be a big leap forward for me. Community SSU would be great as well, of course, but the closed-source components tie their hands a bit...
* I'm willing to contribute with feature-level testing for Mer incl contributing to/with bug reports and maybe some simple development work one day.
* If Qt 4.6 came to Mer &/or Diablo, I would then have more motivation to spend my precious free time doing NIT development work. The cross-platform would be a big lure -- I could potentially re-use my work in other contexts.
EDIT: * If Tear libraries could be updated, then I could use DPad Left in an edit box.
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* n810 since Feb 2009
* Most-used apps: Opera, gPodder, Panucci, Tomiku, Canola, Quasar, MaemoMapper, ATI85, Maemopad+, AisleRiot Solitaire, Anagramarama, Rapier, Gnumeric, pyRDesktop
* Mobile-friendly URLs of popular sites
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2010-02-21
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#106
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Stskeeps is up for an N810Thrives award (per my earlier post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=69), based on
I'll be contacting him via a PM.
- apparent contributions to date (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...471#post536471) and
- the clear statement of plans forward
(http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=101)
I'll be contacting him via a PM.
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2010-02-21
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typing this on a n800 so i'm still around (tho archos is yanking my strings with that 8GB archos 5 IT. And even more so after allowing third party firmware on it).
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2010-02-21
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Originally Posted by Alan_Peery
that he has chosen to convert into an honorary award. :-)
Stskeeps is up for an N810Thrives award.
Next on the list is Ima, for tacking the GTK and Hildon1 porting questions, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...0&postcount=97.
There is also his less directly related post of getting the pipe character (|) easily accessible on the N900 (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=386724&postcount=8), and the unrelated IMAP NOTIFY RFC post (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=26). The RFC is now on my required reading list, and I hope the claws-mail and modest maintainers have already read it!
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2010-02-22
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
I understand why you're doing this, and I agree you need to focus, but still... boo.
* I will be primarily focusing on the N810, not the N800. This means: I won't be spending too much time with the virtual keyboard, I won't be pursuing a stylus keyboard like Fremantle does it. Others are welcome to and patches happily accepted. I need personally to focus and I've decided I'll do this on the N810.
* The final installation will be a complete reflash - I'm not going to spend much time on dual-boot (it may or may not work easily).
Honestly, I would much prefer a community SSU for Diablo fixing everything that has already been patched rather than a shadow Fremantle for the N8x0.
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2010-02-22
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Originally Posted by SD69
Hey, I'm all for moving forward with developing a version of MeeGo for the n8xx line and just dumping Mer. Not that Mer isn't a good project, but I think MeeGo will be light years ahead of it, and by the time that Mer catches up to Diablo, MeeGo will be so far ahead that it won't be worth having.
Makes sense. Thanks for being quick to provide this head-ups on the roadmap.
I've been wondering if we should also rethink Diablo in light of MeeGo. Particularly, with the availability of GTK+, is it feasible to dare dream of doing Hildon extensions and porting existing GTK+ Diablo apps to work on top of Meego? I defer to those with technical expertise (particularly those devs that wrote apps and were hesitating to try to do a harmattan revision) on the practicality of it, and I am just floating the idea.
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* I will be primarily focusing on the N810, not the N800. This means: I won't be spending too much time with the virtual keyboard, I won't be pursuing a stylus keyboard like Fremantle does it. Others are welcome to and patches happily accepted. I need personally to focus and I've decided I'll do this on the N810.
* The final installation will be a complete reflash - I'm not going to spend much time on dual-boot (it may or may not work easily).
* On a N800, you will need to dedicate at least a 2GB SD card permanently seated in the internal SD slot specially partitioned. On N810, we will need to repartition the internal SD.
* The base system will be Debian 5.0 but with a lot of things replaced so it looks (from technical point of view) closer to a Maemo 5.0 installation.
* I will try to seek permission to recompile most of the Fremantle system on top of these ported packages, which will only be legally
available for N800 and N810(W). We'll see how much will work.
* The system will not in any way be 100% open source. We're trying to accomplish it working and possible to use by users on a daily basis, not have an agenda.
* We will need to provide some custom artwork to distinguish between real Maemo and Mer^2 - there should be no brand confusion.
* I will need some Gtk coders to step up to help shape the old hildon-desktop closer to Fremantle interface. It won't be as shiny, but it will perform it's purpose.
As you go on to other communities, remember to build them around politeness, respect, trust and humility. Be wary of poisonous people and deal with them before they end up killing your community.. Seen it happen to too many IRC channels, forums, open source projects.
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