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2015-11-25
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it would be such a total change from a company to a group of developers and technical supporter paid by users... well, it's an option, drastic but viable.
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2015-11-25
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As aegis says.
Also, any money you pour into Jolla at this stage will be soaked up by pre-existing debts in the same way the tablet money was soaked up in the first place. There is no guarantee that your injection will be used for your intended purpose.
Also, any money you pour into Jolla at this stage will be soaked up by pre-existing debts in the same way the tablet money was soaked up in the first place. There is no guarantee that your injection will be used for your intended purpose.
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by romu
That wasn't what was said.
As far as I understood from the last meeting log, it seems that in case of definitive Jolla closing, SFOS will be fully open (except that can't be open like Alien Dalvik and keyboard prediction).
What was discussed is a concrete proposal that's on the shareholder/board table. It has to get approved, or not.
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
If that would happen. I have to say it would be Unlike!
That wasn't what was said.
What was discussed is a concrete proposal that's on the shareholder/board table. It has to get approved, or not.
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by aegis
Item (1) shows that it would also fund the further development of Sailfish OS 2.x for tablets and publish Sailfish 2.x images for some existing and popular tablet(s). So, it would benefit everybody who has some popular tablet (e.g. Nexus 9) and wants a Linux/GNU mobile OS (instead of Android).
You want people who didn't buy a tablet to fund the delivery of the tablet to other people?
Originally Posted by aegis
Wow, yeah ! Mobile OS grows in trees ! Let's wait for the next season to have new fruits, ops, new version of Sailfish OS automatically released.
IMHO, the important thing to salvage is the OS.
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Looking at the bar graph from the "Open letter to Jolla community: through the tough times" (24/11/2015) :
Also, any money you pour into Jolla at this stage will be soaked up by pre-existing debts in the same way the tablet money was soaked up in the first place.
it shows approx. US$/EUR 2.7 million of pre-payments, US$/EUR 2.1 million in material+hardware for the tablet, US$/EUR 2.1 million for software development.
So, to the end user, the tablet is finished only with the software developed and the hardware built, which needed US$/EUR 4.2 million (> 2.7 million).
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2015-11-25
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cma user in TJC suggested to "Register interest in Intex Sailfish OS Phone", by registering in the end of the page.
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by rcolistete
"also" - my emphasis which means you're still spending community money on delivering tablets that have been already paid for by others, diverting funding away from development.
Item (1) shows that it would also fund the further development of Sailfish OS 2.x for tablets and publish Sailfish 2.x images for some existing and popular tablet(s). So, it would benefit everybody who has some popular tablet (e.g. Nexus 9) and wants a Linux/GNU mobile OS (instead of Android).
It's terrible that people have lost out on their purchases but that was the gamble. I don't see why MORE money should be spent on that bad bet.
Originally Posted by rcolistete
No, they don't grow on trees. That was my point about funding continued OS development or the releasing of source and not the tablet bonfire. Let's not waste more money.
Wow, yeah ! Mobile OS grows in trees ! Let's wait for the next season to have new fruits, ops, new version of Sailfish OS automatically released.
If all that comes out of this is Sailfish's closed source being released then there's the roots for growing a new mobile OS.
Jolla may have spent $50m getting there. The next people might not have to spend quite that much.
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by aegis
Standing on the shoulders of giants works in a lot of cases; but in this case, if the continued failure continues around a piece of technology, it's usually abandoned.
Jolla may have spent $50m getting there. The next people might not have to spend quite that much.
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by gerbick
"Standing on the shoulders of giants" or "flogging a dead horse".
Standing on the shoulders of giants works in a lot of cases; but in this case, if the continued failure continues around a piece of technology, it's usually abandoned.
That is the question.