Woah, Tanago why so upset?

We don't know yet how open Sailfish will be. Hopefully fully open. So no point to speculate until the release and further announcements.

Actually, there is a point to speculation: so that Jolla knows what will happen when/if they fail to deliver a fully open phone

think nokia, with the nokia price tag only difference is the cheap hardware.
Dont expect it to be open at all!

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...18#post1239418
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...30#post1239730
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...25#post1239825
After skimming through this entire thread again, I wonder why it never ended-up being closed at #82 or #84.
It was def. redundant at the time given the several other points of discussion we already had, perhaps there wasn't enough mods then.

Which Nokia price tag?

I paid for my Nokia N9 on 26th of November 2011:577,90 EUR

For my Jolla I will pay not more than 399€. So it could be even less than 399€.

How do you know it's cheap hardware? Have you seen the final product quality, do you know final hardware specs?

Go away troll.


Reported your post with a request to close this thread.

When this thread was last most active, we knew very little, far more has become known since, there's still unanswered elements admittedly.
I suppose we could establish a thread dedicated to this area of discussion (or renew this one), but it seems redundant when:

(1)
We already have threads where we can (& do) discuss such subject matter
(2)
We're not likely to get the final pieces to the puzzle until after the 1st device is out
(We've been given several explanations as-to-why that's the case...)

How do we know more now then we did before about this?

So, Jolla admits that there'll be no custom ROMs or kernels.

Well, if it's truly a more open experience that people want, why not go Android? I had a custom kernel and ROM flashed in no time, after unlocking the bootloader, rooting, getting ADB + Fastboot, and flashing a custom recovery.

I just flashed a custom ROM based on 4.2.2 yesterday on my HTC One. The freedom does make a positive difference.

To each his or her own, and I still may get the Jolla phone later this year, but I'm sure it won't be as open.

REALLY? REALLY?
Are you srsly trying to suggest we haven't learnt a **** load more about their approach since July 2012 when we 1st heard about them? What about all the **** we learnt just before/after Slush?
Just because you have some kind of short --> long-term memory problem, doesn't mean folks should have to constantly re-hash stuff for you.

Relax, very old thread, someone massively necro'd it, it died July 20th 2012.
Skim through it, or if you can't do that, at least see my post at #95...