Originally Posted by endsormeans

Can I get fries with that order?
Side salad ...not the coleslaw ...I don't think it should be in the "salad classification "...
And a large root beer..
Please ....

Ridonkulous!
That there is virtually zero option currently to our n900's
Well...my nxx0's....since I still use my n800's and n810's....
Sooooo ....actually ...that ain't so bad come to think of it...
But it would be nice to have something that could go toe to toe with the current crap out there....

Originally Posted by endsormeans

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I began (not so long ago...) puttering away on a retro looking maemo-esque desktop enviro for debian...
Not everyone's cup of tea I am sure...
but it will be adequate ....for my laptops....

just so I can keep having my daily dose of maemo long into the future...

Originally Posted by mscion

Well, speaking of going retro, this is my latest project for a hand held computer.

Originally Posted by kyllerbuzcut

I'm just sort of living in place where I'm in a bubble that's a kind of unachievable utopia, where I can go online, order a cheap motherboard/processor etc - or alternatively, decide on something more powerful, put it all together and install some decent software in it... and with a little bit of configuring, have it up and running the same day all the parts arrived.

The same should be true of
mobile/portable components.
E.g buy an atom x5 or a snapdragon or whatever - combined with small board, add some ram and a way to power it. Have options for a screen to be attached, or a keyboard etc. - all depending on just HOW mobile (or not) you wanted it to be.

Is this all just too much mix&match that will never have a software partner?

I'm definitely no expert, but I'm definitely an end user, and I've seen other end users ask similar questions on different forums, and a couple on here - there could be a huge exploitable market there for some entrepreneurs, or just those with the skillz to knock up a few devices and sell them to some people pre installed with a few things. There are a few kickstarters and indiegogo's that I've mentioned earliee in the thread that have massively blown away their original funding targets. These are nostly windows devices - or android - sometimes both.

As I said I am definitely no expert on any of this, and some may think I don't know what I am talking about with a lot of things.
That is true - I don't know what I'm talking about with some / a lot of this. What I do know is what I'd like to be able to do, and what kind of device options I'd like to be able to do it on.

In my own humble opinion, I think more and more people are sick fed up of being force-fed little rectangles with no buttons on them, and being told this is what they like/should like. If people want something different they get told to "just get a laptop then".
I am not saying that's what happens here, before anyone gets the wrong end of the stick- just the general feedback from people all over. Talk.maemo is one of the safe havens where you can actually talk about new ideas etc.

Again my own opinion - where the sailfish goes wrong is trying to make things look almost exactly like a "normal" phone. I feel like we're in that episode of the Simpsons where they made everyone wear black and white/grey clothes. The Jolla just looked to me like another shade of grey.

Please don't think this is some big rant - lol. I just had a lot to put out there

Windows and android are alreadh To return back to where I started, in my utopian dream world bubble, where I could get a few bits and stick them together how I wanted.... People are actually doing this with windows and android devices, and selling bucket loads of them... right now - available to order today - receive within a few days... so don't nobody tell me there's no demand for a portable device that's not (just) a phone, and isn't like a laptop or tablet. (That statement isn't directed here on this forum- just a general shout out to the universe).

It's happening now and Linux as a whole is getting left far behind.

Something like maemo, dual booting with debian, on a form factor of something like the Gole1, (with a keyboard).. that fits in a (big) pocket would IMO clean up in today's market.