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2011-01-04
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Originally Posted by vkv.raju
Not true in Canada, the USA or many countries in Central America - Mexico seems to be exempt from that.
Not sure where you are located at but Nokia appears a lot in our (India) TV and also on our streets too.
Japan also. No marketing presence there - well, none in my last three trips at least.
But I totally agree to the sentiment here that there is a LOT to improve in this area for Nokia. I would not consider posts on Twitter, Facebook, mailing-lists, Nokia-Blogs as marketing at all.
I am just curious to know one thing. Whats Nokia's opinion on this? I mean do they consider what they are doing as enough marketing or are they thinking that marketing is not that much needed for their products. Anyways, either way, I would go with Fire-&-Hire if I had the option.
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2011-01-05
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I've promoted vkv.raju's post linking to the "MeeGo's Community Woes" article to it's own thread.
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2011-02-09
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Originally Posted by ndi
I disagree very much.
I could argue all night but I'll restrict to the following points:
[...]
In fact, businesses have the best software and for them available is closed. Plus, on a close OS you get both.
In all the 20 years that I am using Windows (various versions)
and Unix/Linux, it was always that the Windows OS sucks.
Some applications were very good - but this was not Windows
or Microsoft. Very often Microsoft OS hindered those better
applications because of crashes, slow motion <name your favourite> or even other bad applications/drivers.
Whereas in Linux these issues were at the very beginning
(somehow compareable with Windows 2.x or 3.x).
Nowadays I see blue screens on Windows 7 at work,
still some dual core machines that are slowed down by
Windows 7 and so forth.
Windows HAS NOT improved lately.
Maybe there was some improvement between Windows NT and XP.
But that was one time and only something that was necessary.
Thinking about this, it would be a big mistake for Nokia
to follow Windows on smartphones (and we are only talking about
smartphones here, nobody is interested in Windows, Android or Apple on cheap phones).
Originally Posted by ndi
I've tried both, Linux and MS.
"After seeing the past 14 years and what MS has done, no thanks."
Sorry to be blunt, but that sounds like it came from a person who hasn't really tried the alternatives.
For 20 years.
And I have enough from Microsoft fooling their customers all
the time !
The things that I've seen from Apple and Google are not that
bad as Microsoft, but I am still not convinced.
Originally Posted by ndi
Nope.
Without any experience of alternatives, without true and extensive research, "OMG MS is going to eat our phones with their logos" is just FUD.
It is the result of 20 years fiddling around with MS-OS.
Originally Posted by ndi
For Android and iOS I only can tell from devices that I had in hand
I own several Windows devices, an iPad, a Maemo device, and am purchasing an Android tomorrow(ish). My point of view might be subjective, but at least it is informed.
shortly.
But for MS I can tell for sure.
;-)
Originally Posted by ndi
That's theory.
Windows can still run apps from 14 years ago, no recompile.
Did you ever try to run old 16bit programs?
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2011-02-09
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By the end of 2011 there will be only 1 meego device?
And that was supposed to be released 2010!!!
anyway its all irelevant to me as I started using android and ios Q1 2011 (have used only nokia devices for 10years!)
I don't have time for poor management decisions
And that was supposed to be released 2010!!!
anyway its all irelevant to me as I started using android and ios Q1 2011 (have used only nokia devices for 10years!)
I don't have time for poor management decisions
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2011-02-09
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Not interested in anything else out there right now, N900 does it all for me. Nokia's bad management decisions don't stop me enjoying using the device and looking forward to the rest of the year (at least) keeping hold of it. I've used friends' android and iOS phones - as someone in another thread mentioned - they're like toys compared to the N900. If a solid MeeGo device comes out in 2011 I'd be interested, but happy to wait until 2012 to be honest.
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Originally Posted by daperl
... and if we make a film of that (and sell it to the germans), we may even make more money than Nokia has through the n900.
Elop is the fire, we're the guy standing on the edge of the platform. Instead of pissing in our pants, we need to piss on Elop and put him out.
(Hey, I've got statistics to back that up...)
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2011-02-09
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Originally Posted by ysss
Where could I buy one?
... and if we make a film of that (and sell it to the germans), we may even make more money than Nokia has through the n900.
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2011-02-09
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@daperl: I told you man! Our first customer in mere seconds!
Last edited by ysss; 2011-02-09 at 15:06.
Originally Posted by mbo
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Where could I buy one?
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But I totally agree to the sentiment here that there is a LOT to improve in this area for Nokia. I would not consider posts on Twitter, Facebook, mailing-lists, Nokia-Blogs as marketing at all.
I am just curious to know one thing. Whats Nokia's opinion on this? I mean do they consider what they are doing as enough marketing or are they thinking that marketing is not that much needed for their products. Anyways, either way, I would go with Fire-&-Hire if I had the option.
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