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juiceme	2015-12-17 , 14:15
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic

Honestly, the sale of the Jolla tablets on Taobao is the final nail in the coffin of anyone else getting their tablets. Even if Jolla had the money to pay the supplier at this stage, the tablets won't exist as they'll soon be sold on Taobao. At this stage, no investor is going to want to invest in a company where they'd have to pay the costs of manufacturing tablets for orders where the money has already been received and spent.

You seem to be unaware of the way most manufacturing business is done in china.
When some device manufacturing is subcontracted to a factory, there will be a number of devices made for the customer, to the specification. However, the company can and will make batches of the same device for domestic market "moonlighting", these devices will often be exactly like the official brand devices, except of course come with no warranty whatsoever.
This is why there are so many domestic-market-iPhones in China for example. The same goes for everything, from cameras to cars.

Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic

Jolla the company are utterly dead now. The next steps for Jolla have to be bankruptcy and a liquidation. I'd expect this to happen very soon. The Sailfish OS IP will be up for sale - I cannot see commercial interest in it. However, there is a chance for the community to buy it. Does anyone care enough at this stage, or will the IP just rot on some server like Maemo did?

It's not looking that bad yet

juiceme	2015-12-17 , 14:16
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Originally Posted by att

Have Jolla's intellectual properties been stolen

In China it is called sharing, IP is never stolen there.

	pichlo	2015-12-17 , 14:27
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Originally Posted by mosen

I know a company who fell from marketleader to zero by ignoring the smartphone trend for long time, so...

And that mysterious ex-market leader would be...?

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	pichlo	2015-12-17 , 14:31
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Originally Posted by billranton

I think smarelopches have already filled their niche with the original pebble - a remote for your phone.

As far as I am concerned, that is their main drawback. Give me a waterproof watch with a camera that works autonomously and I will consider it. Watches that are mere extensions of the phone are pointless toys for rich kids.

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	velox	2015-12-17 , 14:41
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"We have received financing to continue Sailfish OS development from our investors.", Antti said.

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	Copernicus	2015-12-17 , 14:42
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Well, color me surprised. Antti Saarnio is currently talking on IRC, and has "good news" (most of which will be delivered tomorrow in a media delivery / blog posting?). But, in short, Jolla's gotten some amount of financing.

EDIT: And, of course, I'm scooped by velox.

EDIT2: As for tablets:

<+AnttiSaarnio> We only got the financing confirmed yesterday, and we are now busy analysing different alternatives what to do with TabletGate
<+AnttiSaarnio> We will have a board meeting after Christmas which is to decide between alternatives.
<+AnttiSaarnio> Options are: refunding or to continue with tablets, but then even more delays are to be expected.

EDIT3:

<+AnttiSaarnio> Intex project will continue, we have confirmed that yesterday and there will be new Sailfish phone coming.

EDIT4: On the tablets being sold by taobao:

<+AnttiSaarnio> yes, nothing to do with Jolla, but it seems that our production partner from China started selling some tables which were already produced and in their stock. We are discussing with them that they would stop sales immeadiately

EDIT5: Slightly more detail on financing:

<+AnttiSaarnio> The financing is solid, but we are still very tight. Important is that big partners are starting to support us in China, India and Russia

Last edited by Copernicus; 2015-12-17 at 14:53.

eekkelund	2015-12-17 , 14:43
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From mer-meeting:

<AnttiSaarnio>: We have received financing to continue Sailfish OS development from our investors. THIS means that reports about Jolla's death are greatly exaggerated

youmeego	2015-12-17 , 14:46
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