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Look at these data :
http://raspi.tv/2015/raspberry-pi-ze...r-measurements
Add the current used by the screen (which you depend on the size, type, brightness level, etc).
We see that RPi Zero uses approx. half of the power of RPi 2B.
http://raspi.tv/2015/raspberry-pi-ze...r-measurements
Add the current used by the screen (which you depend on the size, type, brightness level, etc).
We see that RPi Zero uses approx. half of the power of RPi 2B.
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2016-01-02
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Originally Posted by rcolistete
Are you satisfied with a 700 MHz single core CPU and 512 MB of RAM in 2016? Don't get me wrong - I think the Pi Zero is a great development, which will make many projects possible that would have been unaffordable before. But it's really more for "The internet of things" rather than a pocket workstation, in my opinion.
We see that RPi Zero uses approx. half of the power of RPi 2B.
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2016-01-02
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Well the iphone is very successful.
and rightly so.
There will always be a majority who wish to relinquish control for immediate gratification, convenience, limited options and the ability consequently to blame another for....whatever.
however I do believe there also will always be at the very least ...a minority who insist on having control over their devices / os's for exactly the opposite reasons.
One thing I have noticed is that ...
sure we have members who "say" they have (or are going to ...) change(d) to ios or android...
I believe it is precious few who do leave this place and what I consider the "only sane option" ...
most of those who truly leave...
move to android and mod their way to a semblance of happiness ..
or head to sailfish..
or any other sane manipulable ..control-able...alternative ...
the pizero ..and the pocketchip may very well prove to be the affordable gateway drug we need to get the ball rolling and get fresh bodies....
hm...
freemantle...
even maemo4...
on pocketchip / pizero...
would go a long way to spreading the maemo-virus to every back pocket ...
and rightly so.
There will always be a majority who wish to relinquish control for immediate gratification, convenience, limited options and the ability consequently to blame another for....whatever.
however I do believe there also will always be at the very least ...a minority who insist on having control over their devices / os's for exactly the opposite reasons.
One thing I have noticed is that ...
sure we have members who "say" they have (or are going to ...) change(d) to ios or android...
I believe it is precious few who do leave this place and what I consider the "only sane option" ...
most of those who truly leave...
move to android and mod their way to a semblance of happiness ..
or head to sailfish..
or any other sane manipulable ..control-able...alternative ...
the pizero ..and the pocketchip may very well prove to be the affordable gateway drug we need to get the ball rolling and get fresh bodies....
hm...
freemantle...
even maemo4...
on pocketchip / pizero...
would go a long way to spreading the maemo-virus to every back pocket ...
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
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Originally Posted by Ken-Young
I know RPi from other people. My RPi 2B and A+ are on the way to my home. I've not succeded to buy a RPi Zero yet, the demand is very high and they make only 10,000 each week. I will use them with external sensor data.
Are you satisfied with a 700 MHz single core CPU and 512 MB of RAM in 2016? Don't get me wrong - I think the Pi Zero is a great development, which will make many projects possible that would have been unaffordable before. But it's really more for "The internet of things" rather than a pocket workstation, in my opinion.
Ok, I agree, RPi Zero is low end for desktop use. But it is what is available in small size.
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Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
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-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
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Originally Posted by endsormeans
Yup, it was an historical accident that consumers got their initial access to the internet by purchasing a general-purpose computer. Most people do not need to own a general purpose, user-programmable computer at all. Not in their pocket, not at home on a desktop.
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Originally Posted by rcolistete
Making 10,000 a week, and they can't keep them stocked! This is the type of product Jolla should have made, instead of yet another vanilla smartphone.
I know RPi from other people. My RPi 2B and A+ are on the way to my home. I've not succeded to buy a RPi Zero yet, the demand is very high and they make only 10,000 each week. I will use them with external sensor data. [...]
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Originally Posted by HtheB
I agree. The Pyra is what I'm asking for. I don't like the gaming controls, but it would be silly for me to make a big deal about that. It's got a huge battery, two SDXC slots - there's a lot to love! But "soon" isn't now.
Check out the Pyra (the Open Pandora successor)
www.pyra-handheld.com
But shipping: soon
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Originally Posted by Ken-Young
There were plenty of hobbyist computers before the IBM PC (1981), but your timeline's a little off. Sure there were interesting things like the Altair and Heath-kit and other stuff before the PC, and the Apple I and II, 8 bit Ataris and VIC-20 predated it, but the real explosion of variety came after. The C=64 came out in '82, the Amiga in '85. Most notably, the Macintosh in 1984, of course. The Atari 1200 and successors came out in the early 80s. And if it weren't for Compaq making a widely available IBM work-alike around '83, the DOS (and then Windows) empire might never have risen with just Big Blue's hardware supporting it. (BTW, that Compaq "luggable" was quite a revolutionary computer at the time, being not only DOS compatible but portable in the sense that it had a handle and case.) And that's just the US: the Sinclair and BBC computers were popular in the UK, for instance. (An incredibly crappy but amazingly cheap version of the Sinclair -- $19.99 at my local drugstore!! -- appeared briefly in the US in a joint venture with Timex.)
Before the IBM PC, there was a period of great diversity in hobbyist personal computers. Wonderful things like the Amiga appeared. You could buy bizarre computers with Z80 and 6800 CPUs on the same board, which would allow you to run software for different architectures on a single machine without emulation. All that stopped when the IBM PC appeared.
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https://www.adafruit.com/products/1566, which reports a 15 hour battery life for a Pi with a 10,000 mAH battery and a headless Pi with no load except pinging. That's a huge battery (216 cubic centimeters!), giving a barely acceptable runtime on a headless Pi!
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