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but the internet tablet the n810 is near perfect when it comes to music download....streamtuner and streamripper,vagalume are where its at cat,so for me thats perfect,the email notification is good too for average email user,the readers are good for quick news but the real problem is that the content should suit the machine and not the other way round...thats an industry right there.....producing content that is easy for devices to use...
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2009-01-01
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Actually what really bugs me about the web broswer is the inconsistency; what I mean is this: Use the browser to get to YouTube and the video playback isn't that good, use myTube to play video off YouTube and its excellent. Why?
And why is the Flash pretty much useless; the BBC websites (that I read all the time) don't play at all nice with Flash enabled, its now worse than ever, all I get after several MINUTES of loading is 'There is a script error that will make your Browser Run Slowly, cancle the script?' which always appears twice.. But I can watch those same flash movies with no difficulty in mplayer? It seems that the n810 has the power to actually do things right, but the software seems to be holding it back.
And why is the Flash pretty much useless; the BBC websites (that I read all the time) don't play at all nice with Flash enabled, its now worse than ever, all I get after several MINUTES of loading is 'There is a script error that will make your Browser Run Slowly, cancle the script?' which always appears twice.. But I can watch those same flash movies with no difficulty in mplayer? It seems that the n810 has the power to actually do things right, but the software seems to be holding it back.
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2009-01-01
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Originally Posted by BigTony
mYTube plays flash content with MPlayer which is optimized for video media on N8x0. Flash on the other hand is a RIA plugin which has to do a big number of other things and is not very optimized for this platform (at least leaves that impression and its closed so you can't improve it, only Adobe). Also to the slow speed contributes the fact that the flash parts are embedded in an html page which has layout that the browser has to render and support while you browse, click and generally abuse it.
Actually what really bugs me about the web broswer is the inconsistency; what I mean is this: Use the browser to get to YouTube and the video playback isn't that good, use myTube to play video off YouTube and its excellent. Why?
Probably there are other factors too. The performance improved over time, but the flash sites get more and more harder to support on a slow device - for instance the Youtube movies became wide very recently - that's at least 1.5x resolution. There's more HD sites now too.
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2009-01-01
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The next version of the Internet Tablet will help with internet browsing troubles, with both a large bump in processing power and Adobe increasing optimization for that processor type. However, it's just a matter of time before webpages become even more robust, using tools in ways they weren't really intended. Look at the videos describing why Google Chrome has a freaking JavaScript compiler.
Last edited by tom61; 2009-01-01 at 21:14.
Originally Posted by Bundyo
If you feel likely taking a stab at improving Flash performance on the tablet, there is the open-source GNASH replacement. It's decently capable (can play YouTube videos at the least) and intended mainly for ARM platform.
Flash on the other hand is a RIA plugin which has to do a big number of other things and is not very optimized for this platform (at least leaves that impression and its closed so you can't improve it, only Adobe).
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2009-01-01
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Nah, if I undertake another project I will probably die. 
I also don't understand a thing of optimization for ARM
I also don't understand a thing of optimization for ARM
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2009-01-01
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I think the OP is right in the sense that the device is presented as 'the internet in your pocket' while it isn't the same internetexperience as on a pc. On the other hand it's a bit naive to expect that from such a low powered device. Also I find it surprising that a rant topic like this goes on for 65 posts.
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2009-01-02
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Originally Posted by iamthewalrus
You are right, the N810 is slower than a PC but acceptable particularly for such a small device. No smartphone with browser can beat this device with versatility.
I think the OP is right in the sense that the device is presented as 'the internet in your pocket' while it isn't the same internetexperience as on a pc. On the other hand it's a bit naive to expect that from such a low powered device. Also I find it surprising that a rant topic like this goes on for 65 posts.
The javascript engine is slow but works very good.
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2009-01-02
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Hey everyone, I changed my mind, I like the N810!
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2009-01-02
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2009-01-02
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Originally Posted by MenoRikey
Just curious...
Hey everyone, I changed my mind, I like the N810!
Why?