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#1931
Originally Posted by parasemic View Post
You do realise Jolla are shipping hundreds of phones at the moment and I'm pretty sure every pair of hands available is doing it 8h a day...
Are you sure that programmers, etc. are preparing FedEx packages?
 

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#1932
Originally Posted by gaelic View Post
Are you sure that programmers, etc. are preparing FedEx packages?
It's not like they haven't been drafted in before.



Sometimes I think people forget just how small Jolla's staff count is.
 

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#1933
Originally Posted by w00t View Post
Google don't allow new devices to use MfE unless you're a paying customer. Sad but true.

(yours with sympathy, another annoyed ex-MfE user)
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I was surprised as it is still working with my N9.

Note as well that it was (apparently) silently failing in the Jolla: no messages of any sort pop up. But the consequence is that nothing was synchronised so no email, no calendar no contacts! So my guess was that google is preventing me from using it in a new device... because i tried different configuration of mfe but none worked.

PS: another reason to put me more out of google
 
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#1934
Today's discoveries:

* headset button doesn't pause music
* holding headset button doesn't skip next track
* incoming call in the middle of music stops music... and then nothing. no resume, even if you don't answer.
 

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#1935
Originally Posted by maluka View Post
It's not like they haven't been drafted in before.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZ7Zj6yCYAAfaio.jpg:large

Sometimes I think people forget just how small Jolla's staff count is.
Well, not a single word if these ~ 10 people are Jolla programmers or just hired workers for packing. On the yellow jackets also 'Visitor' is written. Seems to be a non-permanent Jolla worker.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla they've got 150 employees. (edit1)
According to the german wiki http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla 100 employees. (edit2)
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Don't take me wrong. They produced a decent device. But it's still alpha or beta and criticism must be allowed.

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#1936
Originally Posted by MSameer View Post
Skype is owned by Microsoft. I can only say that ... ;/
I think I read somewhere quite a long time ago that Skype will stop supporting the library (Skypekit or how was it called) used by many 'Skype phones' which was also used on the N900 (and probably on the N9, too lazy to bother to check it now) and that they are focusing on delivering an official Skype app on those platforms that were utilizing the said library (or to stop support for the said platforms altogether).

Found it @ https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA1...at-is-skypekit (you have to be logged in to see the page):

What is SkypeKit?

SkypeKit is a collection of software and APIs (Application Programming Interface) that allows devices or applications connected to the internet to offer Skype voice and video calls. It's designed to work with a wide range of chip sets, operating systems, and audio/video devices.

SkypeKit runs invisibly, with no user display. This way, developers are free to surface and deliver Skype functionality through their own products' interfaces.

SkypeKit is no longer accepting new developer registrations. If you are developing websites or applications that you want to integrate with Skype, check out the Skype URIs.
Skype URIs is just a control interface for the existing Skype client on any given platform and wouldn't cut the mustard here. Even if Skype was to ever arrive (natively) to Sailfish, I don't think that the integration we are longing for would ever be achievable via Skype URIs and it would require the full Skype app running in the background so...

Don't know if Microsoft is solely to blame for that, tho. It was rumored they'll kill support for Skypekit quite some time before Microsoft bought them (btw. I always like to compare the prices Microsoft paid for never-in-their-history-profitable software company and the whole D&S department of Nokia including granted patent use, factories, offices... but I digress) - they were in the process of introducing advertising in a vain attempt to earn something which just wouldn't be feasible through the library, thus - discontinue the library! Microsoft even went on to say that they are interested in having Skype on every single platform out there and that Skype will be not hindered whatsoever after their purchase of it. I know, timeo Danaos et dona ferentes, but still...

Anyway, I wouldn't rise my hopes of getting native Skype on Sailfish anytime soon and given the current state of things I don't think we'll ever see the level of integration of Skype we've experienced on the N900/N9
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#1937
Originally Posted by gaelic View Post
Well, not a single word if these ~ 10 people are Jolla programmers or just hired workers for packing. On the yellow jackets also 'Visitor' is written. Seems to be a non-permanent Jolla worker.
They're all Jolla developers, and I'm sure the yellow jackets are only there for the show.
Show aside, this picture tells of course nothing about how the real packing looks like.
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#1938
Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
Well that is "stuff" too.
Have you checked what exactly happens when you try to make the WLAN connection that fails, does anything suspicious get logged, for example?
No log entries whatsoever.
I tried to manually edit wpa_supplicant.conf in /etc/wpa_supplicant, but as far as I discovered settings are not taken from there. Any ideas where sailfish keeps connection settings?
 
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#1939
Originally Posted by att View Post
Here are some help until Jolla can implement a better solution:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1054
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1727
Oh, I'm aware of the first of those - but it does not actually help with USB MTP, not on my Jolla anyway. And Jolla staff have stated that getting USB MTS to actually work properly is on their to do list ...

Like the look of the second one though. Will find some time to try it later today. In the meantime I'm using SCP to work directly with /run/user/100000/media/sdcard
 
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Originally Posted by gaelic View Post
Well, not a single word if these ~ 10 people are Jolla programmers or just hired workers for packing. On the yellow jackets also 'Visitor' is written. Seems to be a non-permanent Jolla worker.
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Don't take me wrong. They produced a decent device. But it's still alpha or beta and criticism must be allowed.
Perhaps you should click on 'details' in that previous link to see the corresponding thread in which the developers in the picture respond themselves. https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/405000227599310848

Criticism and feedback is how this community has grown. I don't think many of us who bought a Jolla were under any illusion that it would be anything but a beta product at launch. If you expect something that works perfectly immediately then it is perhaps not the device for you. As someone who has been a member of this community for years, I have grown to trust these people to deliver over time. Half the fun is in the journey there.
 

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