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Originally Posted by juiceme
Well, in the first case I meant frame moving relative to "stationary" frame. After all, conclusion is based on theory of relativity which explains what you would measure in each frame relative to other.
Well, not quite
"clocks slow down when in an accelerating reference frame"
Moving by itself does not count, since as there is no absolute reference point there is no way to tell who is "moving" and who is "staying still"...
However acceleration can be observed by the effects it it creates on inertia, which is analogus to gravitational gradient.
And general theory of relativity uses the principle of equivalence, which states that gravitation and inertial forces are indistinguishable. So a person in accelerating rocket (say accelerating at 9.8 meters per seconds squared) can't distinguish between force due to acceleration or if it was gravity (on earth of course!) .
Any student of physics would know this! Ha ha. Just kidding. You're the best, along with Dave999 and Endsormeans. Did I leave out anyone else?
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Originally Posted by mscion
Are you sure it’s the clocks? I thought it was the time
This is not fake news! Clocks move slower in moving reference frame than the stationary reference frame. Also clocks more slowly when near massive object.
Sorry!
Now. Do you know why that is and how massive to you have to be to affect clocks/time/your surrounding.
If I could transform myself to to the size of half the universe. Now would seconds become minutes if you stood right beside me?
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2018-09-11
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Originally Posted by Dave999
Ha ha! That's why you're the best! I don't know maybe that explains why the internet is so slow...
Are you sure it’s the clocks? I thought it was the time
Sorry!
Now. Do you know why that is and how massive to you have to be to affect clocks/time/your surrounding.
If I could transform myself to to the size of half the universe. Now would seconds become minutes if you stood right beside me?
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Anyone knows if it’s possibe to make seconds to minutes by being close to something really huge even compared with the hugest entities in our universe.
Is the time actually going slower or is it just fake space time that catching up to you later?
Also, If you consider that huge objects/gravitational pull actually scams the time from our time. How can we know the time/age of anythhing e.g the universe?
Last edited by Dave999; 2018-09-11 at 18:14.
Is the time actually going slower or is it just fake space time that catching up to you later?
Also, If you consider that huge objects/gravitational pull actually scams the time from our time. How can we know the time/age of anythhing e.g the universe?
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Originally Posted by Dave999
You should learn to do it yourself. Better yet, make an app to do it!
Anyone knows if it’s possibe to make seconds to minutes by being close to something really huge even compared with the hugest entities in our universe.
Is the time actually going slower or is it just fake space time that catching up to you later?
Also, If you consider that huge objects/gravitational pull actually scams the time from our time. How can we know the time/age of anythhing e.g the universe?
Here's how to do the calculation
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:/...7zSkFNcpg9r5-v
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Originally Posted by mscion
Well. That can’t be right. quasars don’t show scam of time according to that. That could mean that the Big Bang never happend and that the universe actually not expanding
You should learn to do it yourself. Better yet, make an app to do it!
Here's how to do the calculation
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:/...7zSkFNcpg9r5-v
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Originally Posted by Dave999
You're right! Einstein must have been wrong! Oh well, not the first time he screwed up!
Well. That can’t be right. quasars don’t show scam of time according to that. That could mean that the Big Bang never happend and that the universe actually not expanding
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2018-09-11
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Originally Posted by mscion
There is no stationary frame. Only a lot of different frames moving relatively to each other. An observer may consider his own frame "stationary" but that is only an illusion.
Well, in the first case I meant frame moving relative to "stationary" frame.
Without gravity, the clock on endsormeans' high altitude jet may appear slow to the observer on the ground but so will the clock on the ground to tbe observer on the jet.
With gravity, both observers will see the jet clock go faster.
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Originally Posted by pichlo
This is the same as what I am inferring. There no absolute "stationary" reference frame. I'm just talking about the observer that is making a measurement and thinks they are not moving. I probably should not have said moving reference frame but just said moving relative to observer. Sorry if I confused folks. My physics is kind of rusty!
There is no stationary frame. Only a lot of different frames moving relatively to each other. An observer may consider his own frame "stationary" but that is only an illusion.
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"clocks slow down when in an accelerating reference frame"
Moving by itself does not count, since as there is no absolute reference point there is no way to tell who is "moving" and who is "staying still"...
However acceleration can be observed by the effects it it creates on inertia, which is analogus to gravitational gradient.