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2014-01-08
, 07:13
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Originally Posted by rainisto
You and I have clearly different ideas of what "quite normal application behaviour" is. IMO, if an application is not primarily network-aware (browser, cloud storage, online map, updating...) then it has no earthly business going on the network. What's more, even for those class of apps, sending any information home is - well, maybe not downright malicious, but definitely naughty.
sending usage statistics to home is [...] quite normal application behaviour.
A flashlight application using the network smells fishier than a fish market.
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2014-01-08
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If you wonder why people are so upset, just google Flashlight Malware. A flashlight software was found to spy users on Android not long ago. I think it wouldn't have been as bad if your software had been pretty much anything else 
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2014-01-08
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Sorry but I disagree, every application SHOULD be network-aware nowadays, even a simple flashlight app yes, I am sure if we sit down we can think of a useful add-on feauture that depends on network usage; I am with rainisto on this one, of course the app behavior should have been communicated a priori but otherwise I find nothing fishy and will continue to use the app.
You and I have clearly different ideas of what "quite normal application behaviour" is. IMO, if an application is not primarily network-aware (browser, cloud storage, online map, updating...) then it has no earthly business going on the network. What's more, even for those class of apps, sending any information home is - well, maybe not downright malicious, but definitely naughty.
A flashlight application using the network smells fishier than a fish market.
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2014-01-08
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#25
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Originally Posted by 243kof
I'm sure that we could come up with a useful way to use the camera, so, lets enable it in the app.
Sorry but I disagree, every application SHOULD be network-aware nowadays, even a simple flashlight app yes, I am sure if we sit down we can think of a useful add-on feauture that depends on network usage;
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2014-01-08
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Originally Posted by evk
Yes, for example it could use the camera to guess when to turn the flashlight on - like when there is a dark door lock in sight. Of course, this recognition would be too heavy for Jolla's hw, so it would stream this to cloud, where it could learn your habits and recognize your door locks faster
I'm sure that we could come up with a useful way to use the camera, so, lets enable it in the app.
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2014-01-08
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harbour qa is good. none of malware/spyware/badware can be approved, relax
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2014-01-08
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Originally Posted by nodevel
Well, if it is with the user's consent and uses his own private cloud then why not
Yes, for example it could use the camera to guess when to turn the flashlight on - like when there is a dark door lock in sight. Of course, this recognition would be too heavy for Jolla's hw, so it would stream this to cloud, where it could learn your habits and recognize your door locks faster
But who needs camera and network on mobile phones anyway
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2014-01-08
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Originally Posted by rainisto
To me it is up to Jolla to keep apps away from the harbour at the OS current state that do anything except their main function.
Must be just you. I did read the qml code on what data application sends, and as it doesnt send anything else than usage statistics, I'm still a happy user and havent uninstalled anything. And will continue using his great apps without any problems.
And his statistic function was in very readable QML file so he wasnt trying to hide anything (usually malware would do it in secret and with hidden functions outside QML).
No need to have a flashlight access the network.
I do understand its developers interest who is using the app when and where but this hurts my personal privacy.
Either I'm informed about it or can opt-in/out.
This is why I've chose Sailfish/Maemo in the first place - to have a superior control over my apps. Instead I could also use Android if I wouldn't care - still there is XPrivacy that takes care of this.
Way to go Jolla/Sailfish, I'll be watching API Security Model thread on together.jolla.com. Hope you don't join the dark side
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2014-01-08
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if people wanna test harbour qa simply right a calculator app, hide some malware in there, and see if it makes it past inspection
EDIT: to clarify, I'm talking about simple uninstallation case: it should not leave installed useless files behind
Last edited by minimos; 2014-01-08 at 15:57. Reason: added clarification