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2016-08-22
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Originally Posted by nthn
The z1c and z3c are pretty much the same size externally. There's less bezel on the z3c. It's still significantly smaller than a Jolla phone despite having a larger screen.
I was looking at that list as well, but unfortunately the red boxes are in all the wrong places, the porter for the Z1 Compact is no longer working on it, the Z3 Compact doesn't seem all that compact anymore at 4,6 inch and is on the expensive side anyway (of course I say this having paid full price for the Jolla phone). Good to hear Sony are releasing sources, though.
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2016-08-22
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Agree 100%. IMHO even Jolla 1 was (and still is - I have not grown yet) too big for one hand use and thus in part spoiled the user experience that SFOS aims for.
+1!
Sailfish would fare marvelously on a small screen. That is where the swipe navigation would really make a difference. Not on big screens where buttons make more sense.
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2016-08-22
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Originally Posted by nthn
There are Xperia 2011 devices which have a working Sailfish OS port. To be honest it works surprisingly well (as for such piece of hardware) but has also some issues. Mostly with scaling (320x480 devices especially, mostly with 3-rd party apps), lacking of the proper hardware keyboard layout and the amount of RAM memory seems to be a significant bottleneck on daily routine using.
I really hope some kind of 3,5-4 inch device with Sailfish OS will be released in the (near) future. I'd buy it without even looking at the specs.
I am also looking for a "preferably smaller" device with Sailfish OS porting in mind. Unfortunately, all the Nexus devices lack the memory card slots.
Currently I am thinking about Sony Xperia Z1 Compact and Motorola Droid 4. The first one seems to be almost perfect. Has even the FM transmitter. But doesn't have the hardware keyboard and has a poor CyanogenMod support. The second one has a lot worse hardware but includes hardware keyboard. The CyanogenMod support seems to be better.
It seems that every available solution is to some extent a compromise. And that bothers/annoys me.
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2016-08-22
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Slightly O/T: Maybe I'm bonkers, but I covet a phone with something like an e-ink / e-paper primary display.
It'd be niche, sure, but for basic use I think it'd be just about viable (perhaps with a few more years' development). No videos possible, only very basic games, and web browsing would be sketchy. But imagine the battery life...
I was seriously considering buying the JotaPhone 2 before I found the Jolla. Probably would have gone ahead and bought the former if it had had a replaceable battery.
It'd be niche, sure, but for basic use I think it'd be just about viable (perhaps with a few more years' development). No videos possible, only very basic games, and web browsing would be sketchy. But imagine the battery life...
I was seriously considering buying the JotaPhone 2 before I found the Jolla. Probably would have gone ahead and bought the former if it had had a replaceable battery.
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2016-08-22
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MikeHG, you do realize that Yota(sp?) had both LCD and e-ink and used the latter as auxiliary only? The main screen was still LCD.
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2016-08-22
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I do, yes - I looked into it fairly seriously.
It was the non-replaceable battery that caused me to look elsewhere and find the Jolla, partly in the hope that Kimmo eventually got his e-ink TOH working.
But the more I've thought about it since, the more I've realised that I really could do without a 'decent' display on my phone at all - I have a tablet, and we live in an era of screencasting.
If I could get something that was more or less a 'featurephone' (with a text-only LCD, capable of doing emails and maybe console style web browsing) but could tether to my tablet I'd also be happy. Not in the market to replace my Jolla 1 yet, but if semi-modular phones become a viable thing that's a direction I'll look into when it finally dies (or 1GB of RAM finally pushes me over the edge).
It was the non-replaceable battery that caused me to look elsewhere and find the Jolla, partly in the hope that Kimmo eventually got his e-ink TOH working.
But the more I've thought about it since, the more I've realised that I really could do without a 'decent' display on my phone at all - I have a tablet, and we live in an era of screencasting.
If I could get something that was more or less a 'featurephone' (with a text-only LCD, capable of doing emails and maybe console style web browsing) but could tether to my tablet I'd also be happy. Not in the market to replace my Jolla 1 yet, but if semi-modular phones become a viable thing that's a direction I'll look into when it finally dies (or 1GB of RAM finally pushes me over the edge).
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2016-08-22
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Originally Posted by aegis
According to GSM Arena:
The z1c and z3c are pretty much the same size externally. There's less bezel on the z3c. It's still significantly smaller than a Jolla phone despite having a larger screen.
Jolla: 131 x 68 x 9.9 mm
Xperia Z1 Compact: 127 x 64.9 x 9.5 mm
Xperia Z3 Compact: 127.3 x 64.9 x 8.6 mm
I wouldn't call 4mm significantly smaller.
Compared to the N9: 116.5 x 61.2 x 12.1 mm
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2016-08-22
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Originally Posted by mp107
Yeah, if the Xperia Mini Pro had some slightly better specs I think everyone on this forum would buy one. It's only 9cm! The Xperia Mini is even smaller!
There are Xperia 2011 devices which have a working Sailfish OS port. To be honest it works surprisingly well (as for such piece of hardware) but has also some issues. Mostly with scaling (320x480 devices especially, mostly with 3-rd party apps), lacking of the proper hardware keyboard layout and the amount of RAM memory seems to be a significant bottleneck on daily routine using.
I am also looking for a "preferably smaller" device with Sailfish OS porting in mind. Unfortunately, all the Nexus devices lack the memory card slots.
Currently I am thinking about Sony Xperia Z1 Compact and Motorola Droid 4. The first one seems to be almost perfect. Has even the FM transmitter. But doesn't have the hardware keyboard and has a poor CyanogenMod support. The second one has a lot worse hardware but includes hardware keyboard. The CyanogenMod support seems to be better.
It seems that every available solution is to some extent a compromise. And that bothers/annoys me.
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2016-08-22
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So add your vote here: https://together.jolla.com/question/...maller-phones/
There is nothing small enough in the Android world today. I switched to a small iPhone. I'm a bit disappointed by the user experience which I expected better than it is, but in hand, it's far superior to everything else. And I trust more Apple to protect my data than Google.
There is nothing small enough in the Android world today. I switched to a small iPhone. I'm a bit disappointed by the user experience which I expected better than it is, but in hand, it's far superior to everything else. And I trust more Apple to protect my data than Google.
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Come to think of it, if there's one thing Apple has done right, it's their screen sizes. Although even there the compact models have become bigger over time. The compactness of an iPhone 4S with Sailfish on it would be heaven.
Last edited by nthn; 2016-08-21 at 19:21.