a). Doesn't Elop work as MS EVP of mobile since 1.1.2014?

b). Could the council, or possibly whoever remains modding these forums, do something to reign in Dave's necrophilia? The fetish is getting out of hand.

option Y: make a giant fundraising operation in exchange of the closed parts of MeeGo.

This option would be both mutually beneficial for Elop and the community. Like Stskeeps said: “open sourcing takes time and lawyer time” which could be founded by the community and the company could even make a profit on it which is better than nothing like now.

And what shitty corporations do with their IP, if they're not FOSS-friendly? Dump it into the "locker" for eternity, as for their limited thinking abilities, opening any source code = some (even if small) cost and no profit, while keeping it dumped somewhere = no cost no profit. So, following their line of thinking, dumping into eternal freezer is more "profitable" than opening.

Nokia presented this stance many times even before elop, no reasons to believe it changed to better during nokia$oft transformation.

IMO, asking Council - whoever they are, and if that body even still exist at all (sorry, I'm out of loop about such things) - is just implying on those poor guys to waste their time. Really, I don't believe anyone ever think about receiving positive answer (or any answer, probably).

/Estel

// Edit

Not that harmattan parts are, in any way, anything worthwhile for the community. The only thing that "can" be done for those devices, is to make all "Trusted" computing bits miraculously disappear on hardware level (that is, no signed-*anything*), and dumping whole system for something better. FOSS'ified Fremantle (preferably) or Mer without current limitations. Ah, and if someone need more miracles - closed hardware (GPS) becoming fully documented and open, all of sudden

No amount of OS or UI components opening is going to help a device, that is so full of treacherously closed hardware.

If someone got confused by the above - no, it's not gonna happen, it's just a, well, "thought experiment".

He will take it and his 25 million dollar bonus (for destroying Nokia handsets) to his master's base (Dr. Octupus) under the ocean to use on his masters computer system.

There they will teleconfrence with the Nokia board members to create a new reality TV show only viewable by the 1%ers of the world called "So you think you can fail."

The one that destroys the biggest company and/or the most people's/country's income and gets away with it for the longest time while making the most money wins.

*edit: Happy New Year!

I really shouldn't even post to this thread, but Elop moved to MS couple of days ago.
He has not been representing Nokia for months though. Timo Ihamuotila has been Nokia's temporary CEO since September, before new one is selected shortly.

Nevermind Tissot.

I'm sure Dave is finding something to do with his time by bumping up yet another thread back from few years back.

tbh who actually owns the rights? I understand MS bought the phone division, but I though that was largely the crappy windows phone making part. Also who exactly owns Nokia? Is it the finnish or MS, what did MS get?

Have you guys seen the asha 501? Thats where harmattan ended up, and probably why they wont open source it.

Wiki doesn't agree:

And Smarterphone ...

Dave, you are a waste of oxygen, every step you take on this planet is one step too many, you are the sole reason for the decadence of humanity, oil wars, aids and dead kittens.
Dave, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT7xc_XqYO8