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2016-02-26 , 23:10
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#311
Originally Posted by catbus View Post
Finnish taxpayers paid approximately 8 M/year...
Hope not. If that was true just give them another 10 M and they might manage to deliver 900 more tablets.

In fact give me 5 and I set up shop in Salo. Buying the rest of the Jolla tablet from Asia, and ship more tablets than Jolla managed with all their money and people.

Do Jolla even pay tax in Helsinki?

After all, Ubuntu edge amount might not be a marketing stunt. Given Jollas story you probobly need 30-40 M to build a device. It's just that Jolla had no clue about it.
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2016-02-26 , 23:34
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#312
Oh my god.

I just can't stand it anymore.
I swear this place should be renamed "Talk Speculation dot org"

argh!

I ..I just tweaked my own memory...

Just to push everything closer to a head...
(like Disco Duck crushed Disco utterly...)

Here...
Here you guys go...
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"Oh my god....I'm looking for a sailor..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk4ZmItC4dE

perfect...
absofreakin' perfect...

(actually I've always had a soft spot for Erlend & Steinjo ...funny b-tards...)
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2016-02-27 , 02:40
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#313
Originally Posted by chenliangchen View Post
Thanks, but this is not a video, it could be plastic dummy, or just in different cases.
I don't know what you mean by "in different cases", but really? You think that actually happens - you turn up at a fairly major tech journalism website's office with a plastic dummy, and they run a story with their watermarks on the pictures and the URL "[your]-phone-hands-on-preview"?

There's being cautious, which is good, but there's also slipping beyond that into outright paranoia...

p.s. You can fake video too you know

p.p.s. https://xkcd.com/331/
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#314
Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
Well, that's how startups are suposed to behave, they get lots of the good stuff and burn it really really fast tring to light up a really big fire, that keeps on burnig for a long time.

Thing is, not all manage to jumpstart the big fire. No problem there, someone will sooner or later.
It just takes loads of the startup money to burn first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0lrIi0ce5E is a good documentary on how Finnish startups are expected to behave.
 

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2016-02-27 , 08:09
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Originally Posted by catbus View Post
Finnish taxpayers paid approximately 8 M/year...
~8 million total. Not per year (you can see the split per year if you look up jolla oy in ssahla's link).

A lot of money for sure, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

And AFAIK it's quite often not "free" money, but money you eventually will repay once/if you do start raking in the moolah (loans/share ownership).
 

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Originally Posted by catbus View Post
Finnish taxpayers paid approximately 8 M/year...
Do you have some links to prove it?

According to these it is not per year it is for total. Tekes have given total of 8.3 million in grants and loans to Jolla. Of which they paid 7.9 million to Jolla. Jolla did not get any money in 2015.



and:

http://www.taloussanomat.fi/informaa...i/201515373/12
 

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2016-02-27 , 08:52
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#317
Originally Posted by delmar View Post
Liquidmetal or liquid metal?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...s-liquidmetal/

Also Omega use Liquidmetal for they're watches.
Perhaps they just use quicksilver (mercury)?
 

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2016-02-27 , 11:32
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Originally Posted by hhbbap View Post
Perhaps they just use quicksilver (mercury)?
Also Doogee uses liquid metal on their cheap phones.

http://www.doogeemobile.com/doogee-f5.html
 

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2016-02-28 , 05:17
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Originally Posted by delmar View Post
Liquidmetal or liquid metal?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...s-liquidmetal/

Also Omega use Liquidmetal for they're watches.
Proof once again that even the most horrificly dubious discussions can have points of education and other enlightenment.
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#320
Originally Posted by theonelaw View Post
Proof once again that even the most horrificly dubious discussions can have points of education and other enlightenment.
No, its not completely told.
Apple already saved exclusive license with Liquidmetal Tech. Inc. back in August 2010, for use in consumer electronics products.
Swatch Group (Omega) has a license back from 2011 to use liquidmetal in Watches.
Apple has at least renewed exclusivity in May 2014 for use in "consumer electronic products".
And recently again back in June 2015

Originally Posted by delmar View Post
Liquidmetal or liquid metal?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...s-liquidmetal/
Sure they use a different Name, "Liquidmorphium". So please link up sources for that. I couldn't find any.(ok, wasn't looking very hard -> Edit).
Who else produces liquidmetal kind of material would be a start to clear things up.
EDIT, at least there is a wikipedia article that mentions TRI and a reddit article.
TRIs trademark for liquid morphium is still "NON FINAL".
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