I thought you were the one who started with insults.... And talking about antennas - maybe the ones who are for the phone are better tuned to the future, thanks to their antennas.

Going back to your original post #868 - there are no talking points either camp is talking about. Its just the need for voice and a better camera as against the trade-off for a smaller screen that everybody is debating. I don't see any talking points - let alone the "communist" angle slap that you put on.
And with the way PDA's/tablet devices are merging with communication devices (its been a long steady trend) and other products like the netbook and kindle like devices are filling in the gaps, it doesn't take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows - antennas or a licked finger in the air notwithstanding.

And both sides have valid points - and that the point of a forum rather than trying to label each other with meaningless labels.

I am excited about that line too .. does this mean maybe like Android, Nokia will licence the OS (Freemantle , Harmattan) to other manufacturers and we can see other manufacturers filling in the tablet space while Nokia concentrates on the Phone-like device space ? Is this possible with the way Freemantle will have open as well as closed components in it ? That would be even better for Maemo than looking to Nokia itself for all Maemo based hardware.

a device for Fremantle and a device for Harmattan. I fail to see how this suggests multiple devices for Fremaantle alone?

As for the sales numbers, I have in the past also asked Quim for these numbers. He says that he does not have them. I believe him.

He is the Marketing Manager for Maemo software, not for Nokia hardware. I also notice perhaps this title has changed?? I keep seeing "Quim Gil Opensource advocate" Perhaps this is for when not representing Nokia?

Either way, I don't think there is any large conspiracy to keep the numbers from supporting anyone's talking points. It's just business as usual...

Gnaaaaaarglllll, Pinguin, you really don't want to understand what i mean ...

Was it really buggy or just ultra-limited in function ?

You should meet my wife, she will tell you, I am an antagonist. Although, you could also as Texrat, Council, Quim, and many many others. I am almost as annoying as the French, poke poke.


Both! The n800 went through HELL during the data corruption bug. I WAS pissed as were MANY many others.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=10178

Seriously I have been here since January 2006. I have agreed and disagreed with most of the people here, sometime vigorously. We always come back to the thing that keeps us together. I think many people are afraid that this thing that brings us together, might have just left them out. (again all the speculation, Nokia will either deliver or screw the pooch.) Either way, this is not like 2006. In 2006 Nokia 770 was the shITT, nothing even close. 2009 and 2010 are not the same markets. Only time will tell.

Does any one have any idea on the price of this thing in the UK and would it be sim-free or attached to a network?

Pinguin, don't poke-poke too much the french gay newbie ... He could like it.

Well, as I got my first NIT very recently, all the bugs were already solved, and now the system is a joy to use. I find it more reliable than Win Mo and even Palm OS (since Garnet, it wasn't so reliable anymore).

The only thing I could have complained is that when you get the device, it doesn't do much without adding apps, even for basic uses as PIM ...

Penguinbait, by your logic, haven't we all been beta-testers for a large number of commercial products, especially for software? Granted, those are then fixed by the company in-house, but still ...

Well I am not sure competing with Vista is a good thing

See my response here.