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Please do not derail the thread.
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@m4r0v3r what is your question about?
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But who cares about the store? Chum is where the money is.
 
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@m4r0v3r if you asking why store not allowing background services answer is simple: because dbus daemons can be started as root, and there are no checkings if you starting it as regular user or root, and because of that it's just forbidden at all
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Originally Posted by coderus View Post
@m4r0v3r if you asking why store not allowing background services answer is simple: because dbus daemons can be started as root, and there are no checkings if you starting it as regular user or root, and because of that it's just forbidden at all
No, that's not true for user/session services.

I suspect the problem is that there's no task manager/service control UI to lay blame to a specific program.

Besides, opportunistic suspend makes daemons completely useless.
 
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Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
Besides, opportunistic suspend makes daemons completely useless.
not entirely true, but close enough. At best it makes daemons run unreliably. At least without nasty hooks.
 
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Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
Besides, opportunistic suspend makes daemons completely useless.
That's not a problem for Pebble daemon, as long as ring/sms/notification wakes up the device
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Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
Chum is where the money is.
Care to elaborate where exactly is that money?
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Originally Posted by coderus View Post
@m4r0v3r if you asking why store not allowing background services answer is simple: because dbus daemons can be started as root, and there are no checkings if you starting it as regular user or root, and because of that it's just forbidden at all
thats exactly what am asking, thank you

do daemons not run effectively due to wakelocks? or atleast how deep sleep is implemented through wakelocks??
 
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That's not a problem for Pebble daemon, as long as ring/sms/notification wakes up the device
It will only wake the device for less than a second, unless you or someone else takes a wakelock. (Which are also forbidden in store btw).
If your BT connection is e.g. parked, or has been lost, etc. your program will take more time than what the system needs to display the notification, and will then happily proceed to suspend while your program hasn't yet forwarded the notification to the watch.
 
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