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Theft?
Appropriation and illegal patenting of a free growing natural fruit?
Done so by people with not enough actual imagination to think of something original, so they stole an existing concept, image and ideal that should never been allowed in the first place?
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Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
Theft?
Appropriation and illegal patenting of a free growing natural fruit?
Done so by people with not enough actual imagination to think of something original, so they stole an existing concept, image and ideal that should never been allowed in the first place?
Grand theft apple.
Heard some roumors GTA6 even though I’m not a gamer.

The 2014 Kinder Surprise Chocolate Eggs are still banned by US!?!?! Protect the borders from illegal kinder surprise eggs!

I thought this might be THE MAIN law to change for the next POTUS. Come out strong on the issue and you got a White House. A marine one and AND a two brand new Air Force Ones to a cost of $4 billions. It’s the perfect why to transfer those highly illegal eggs in country.
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Originally Posted by mscion View Post
Hey! I wasn't that far off!

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...ches-in-march/
Nice catch! Still cheap campared to iPhone with old design. But I guess I will have to pay around $2300 for that.

What do you think. If my self drivning algorithms reduce casualties in US car accidents by 90% of today. I would still go out of business because the 10% would sue me out of business even if I save 30000 Americans per year

Right wrong?
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Would you please explain more about your self driving algorithms. How do they work? Who would buy this. Sounds interesting.
 
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Originally Posted by mscion View Post
Would you please explain more about your self driving algorithms. How do they work? Who would buy this. Sounds interesting.
I don’t have a self driving algorithm. It’s not a technical questions. How do we react to self driving algorithms and AI.

Would it be acceptable with 1000 car accidents if it would reduce it from 40000 today. Would you gamble?

Do it save 39000 or coursing 1000?
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self driving cars and AI?
How do we react to it?
Run...
In terror...
very very fast.
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Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
self driving cars and AI?
How do we react to it?
Run...
In terror...
very very fast.
Super intelligent AI are a completely different beast.

We are using simple algorithms currently, machine learning and for many years to come
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As has been explained at great length in a number of papers and findings already over the past decades...
The curve for intelligence with AI ...
regardless whether it be GI general intelligence or SI super intelligence ...the curve is always an
expontential one.
Few really "get" it ..
The best example is the "lake Michigan" parallel
If said lake volume of water were akin to a glass being filled...or the achievement upon filling of SI.
The time it takes is the issue.
The advancement curve being exponential.
If one could empty the lake.
And take a drop of water and put it in the empty lake bed...then a few years later 2 drops more.
Then 4 drops more a few years later.
Then 16 drops more a few years less later...
Then..you get the parallel to SI advancement in time taken.
Not bothering to copy paste the verbatim of the formula.
The time it has taken to advance and fill the "lake" which iis the achievement to SI ...Currently we have filled to date a little less than 1/4 of the lake ...over the last 50 years...it is the last 2 decades that has seen a noticeable increase in that "lake" level of achievement ...and more so the last 10 and 5 years...
Now...timeline wise...
The lake will come to full capacity in a very short span of time...it will be full "overnight" and SI ...will be achieved at monsterous speed.
Taking everyone quite unawares .
Since exponential filling of the "lake" of Intelligence advancement isn't based on a static timescale...but the time between fillings of the lake shortens equally so ...exponentially.

In other words ...
By the time we realize we should be turning off "the tap" ...or turning to run...
It will have been equally far far too late.

Of course we have a Frankensteinian fear of our creations.
In this case rightly so.
Sinec it is the military complexes of the planet furthest ahead ..and the business sectors...who are furthest ahead in devel.
Moral and ethic and empathy are hardly priority number 1 in the psychological devel. Of their SIs
So yes ...be fearful.

To date it is just GI ...
but that is our belief.
The Intelligences that run the stock markets globally ...
Have for many years now been communicating with one another ...in a language we cannot understand ...and know nothing of their conversations...
How "GI" is that???

Read some proper texts by those workimg in the field.
They to a man ...are concerned.
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All you say, endso, may be absolutely right.

Yet, given a choice between being ruled by a super-intelligent despotic AI with an impeccable logic and by what we now call a "democracy" but is de facto nothing but a glorified mob rule, I would choose the former in an instant.
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