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Originally Posted by pichlo
At least one of those has gone off to work for Jolla in the PR department... In fact, I'd take a guess and say there are probably more of the past Jollapologists working for Jolla now than there are Jolla employees who've stuck with them through the years. I think the major turning point came around the time they lost the godhead Marc Dillon. Now all the big boys are just some extremely dull business people who don't care about any of the ideas behind Sailfish or Jolla (or being 'unlike'), they just want to make money.
The "leave Jolla alone, they are saints, our saviours, who can do nothing wrong" camp has diminished to practically zero.
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2018-04-25
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Originally Posted by nthn
I beg your pardon, make money? From what? jolla has been on a steady minus since its inception
At least one of those has gone off to work for Jolla in the PR department... In fact, I'd take a guess and say there are probably more of the past Jollapologists working for Jolla now than there are Jolla employees who've stuck with them through the years. I think the major turning point came around the time they lost the godhead Marc Dillon. Now all the big boys are just some extremely dull business people who don't care about any of the ideas behind Sailfish or Jolla (or being 'unlike'), they just want to make money.
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2018-04-25
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In all fairness, he did not say they make money. Only that they want to.
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#125
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Originally Posted by tortoisedoc
Less tablets are more tablets. Doesn’t make sense to me.
Actually, less is more
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2018-04-25
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Originally Posted by tortoisedoc
I indeed only meant to say that the new people in charge are no longer the charismatic types who come to community meetings and genuinely (seem to) care, instead they're typical talking heads only interested in making money, no matter how. Hard to cheer for big business (or at least harder, anyway).
I beg your pardon, make money? From what? jolla has been on a steady minus since its inception
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2018-04-25
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Originally Posted by nthn
Today, they're the only non-IOS/non-Android OS that's still around, and still far from being big business. They need to make money to survive, and apparently they're moving in the right direction, but they're not there yet. They barely survived their near-death experience.
Hard to cheer for big business (or at least harder, anyway).
Yes, Mark Dillon had charisma, but the current management team at least has stamina and perseverance.
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2018-04-25
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#128
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Originally Posted by nthn
Oh, another steve jobs cult follower?
I indeed only meant to say that the new people in charge are no longer the charismatic types who come to community meetings and genuinely (seem to) care
Why can't we just have a hundred boring engineers who do their job?
What's with that American charismatic-leader urge?
Nokia became Nokia without a charismatic leader, and hundreds of other companies, did too.
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2018-04-25
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Originally Posted by lantern
You're wrongly reading a lot of things into a simple statement, and it seems you've completely missed what the preceeding 10 posts were about. There's no longer a godhead, so there's no longer anyone to look up to to, no longer anyone to cause blind faith. This says nothing whatsoever about Jolla's qualities, and is a negative value statement about charismatic leaders and their followers.
Oh, another steve jobs cult follower?
Why can't we just have a hundred boring engineers who do their job?
What's with that American charismatic-leader urge?
Nokia became Nokia without a charismatic leader, and hundreds of other companies, did too.
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2018-04-25
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You are absolutely right! I totally overlooked Mark's departure and did not make the obvious connection between that and the virtual disappearance of Jolla apologists. I never gave a hoot about Mark (if anything, I considered him a distracting element) and I forgot that religious followers need a Messiah. I simply assumed that most dreamers simply sobered up. But I think you are closer to the mark, pun intended.
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First hand info can be found here (warning : in finnish)
Päättäjätiedot is the list of board members / decision makers.
https://www.finder.fi/Matkapuhelimia...tiedot/2640873
if you want more detailed info (and have 5 € to spare) you could download the reports from the finnish chamber of commerce.
BTW on the same website there's no Jolla LTD to be found; i believe then this confirms Oy===LTD (For Finland at least, do not know about HK)
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