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2010-03-19 , 00:04
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Anyone saw the Arm Linux Internet ? the SO form TI ?
 
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2010-03-19 , 00:13
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Originally Posted by u2maemo View Post
iegd_mod.ko is native driver used for GMA500(SGX 535) and is closed.

No accelerator driver available is preventing linux handhelp device enter market.

Without accelerator driver, ARM cpu including Cortex A8 don't have enough performance for web surfing.
I hate to be the one to tell you - but your talking out of your arse all over the forum! Devices do FINE without any 3D acceleration driver, with regards to web surfing. In fact adding a 3D acceleration driver would help very little, if at all.
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2010-03-19 , 00:26
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You should see what I said clear.

What I said is hardware accelerator driver which include 2d and 3d accelerator. 2d acceleration driver have big effect for web surfing and web page render. That's why all ARM cpu don't have good performance now for web usage under linux.
 
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2010-03-19 , 09:21
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#584
Originally Posted by u2maemo View Post
That's why all ARM cpu don't have good performance now for web usage under linux.
What are you talking about?! Practically every smartphone out there is ARM based device. Qualcomm, Marvell, TI, all use ARM as their core processors. I don't see that much of a problem in case of web rendering for most of these devices.
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2010-03-19 , 10:27
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The only thing I can imagine he's referring to is flash performance (as in on ARM Flash does not (yet) use specific HW acceleration).
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2010-03-19 , 11:30
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The only thing I can imagine he's referring to is flash performance (as in on ARM Flash does not (yet) use specific HW acceleration).
Or things like kinetic scrolling, where performance could be ... better.
 
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2010-03-19 , 14:10
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I wondered whether there would be some possibility that the n800 accelerated driver could be a subset of a GMA500 driver.

I bring this up because there are a lot of people who want a solid driver for GMA500 and are reliant on the 3rd party drivers commissioned by Intel:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/...ds-face-gma500

To those who think it's not needed: my fujitsu u2010 (u820 variant) has GMA500 and I can tell you that accelerated video make a huge difference, even simple things like switching apps becomes relatively instant.

Although there was a glimmer of hope back in november
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item&px=NzY2Mg
there's not been too much recent news, although Intel do seem to be keeping the product page going:
http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets...S15W/index.htm
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2010-03-19 , 20:43
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#588
Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
The only thing I can imagine he's referring to is flash performance (as in on ARM Flash does not (yet) use specific HW acceleration).
Well, could be, but flash can hardly qualify as web rendering imho.
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2010-03-19 , 20:44
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Originally Posted by nowave7 View Post
What are you talking about?! Practically every smartphone out there is ARM based device. Qualcomm, Marvell, TI, all use ARM as their core processors. I don't see that much of a problem in case of web rendering for most of these devices.
All these device which have good performance in web rendering have hardware acceleration but driver used for GPU acceleration is all closed source.

iPhone and Android device or N900 have good web rendering but Linux don't because there are no GPU hardware acceleration driver is available for linux.

All GPU from PowerVR don't have open source driver including GMA500(SGX535) which have driver in linux but source code is closed.
 
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2010-03-19 , 20:45
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Originally Posted by maacruz View Post
Or things like kinetic scrolling, where performance could be ... better.
Again, not web rendering... But don't complain about it on my N810 (where it is implemented, ie. Canola2).
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