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#2201
Originally Posted by zico View Post
Funny that you mention that. Because thats what im actually doing, my friend wanted to pre-order a N900 today, i told him:

"if you don't want to be treated with respect, if you don't want it to ship when they tell you to, if you want to hang around forums all day long and wait for some release news, if want to be fooled by the company with fake release dates, then N900 is the phone for you. Otherwise just go with and android."

And thats what he did. Went with an andriod phone.
You have my word lads, as soon as i hear of a phone that has the same specs as n900, i will cancel asap, i don't even care if its not released yet.

And who added viagra to the tags?.. wth man?, you did make laugh thou.

Well you sure showed Nokia. Man they must be rushing to get you your N900 now. Now mark my words if you listen to rumor and take it as gospel and threaten to cancel every time you don't get what you want when you want it I suggest you hold your breath until you turn blue - then when that happens tape your mouth and nose shut and keep on holding it.
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#2202
Originally Posted by cenwesi View Post
All these people running to Andriod will surely come back...
Why should they?
I can almost promise that in maximum 2 years from now, the android will dominate, and we all will want an android device, i mean come on, its google ftw!
maemo will be nice, for now. for next year, yeah maybe. but thats it. you will see.

don't get me wrong, i will develop for the n900, but thats not enough to keep up with googles android. its absurd to think that.
 
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Originally Posted by silvermountain View Post
Yes, I've seen your anti-Google posts. Often avoiding answering follow-up questions as you seem to favor rumors and personal bias more than facts. Your posts are now to the point of 'trolling' and regurgitation so I'm adding you to my ignore list to atleast filter that noise out. No hard feelings, we all have our preferences - but maybe be a little bit more objective and honest in how we express them. Bye.
If you read this, do you know why I'm *****ing about Google? Because I know a huge number of uninformed people visits the forums, and Google needs to be stopped. I could argue about this, but I prefer to do other things instead.

But I have time to make Google look bad for the vast majority, and if you don't understand why this is needed, you'll either thank me in the future (if not too late), or you're simply dependent on Google already.


IBM, Microsoft, Intel, Apple... this has happened too many times. Google has already surpassed the most of them, and yet they're considered as nice.

I'm partly doing this for myself, because I don't want to live in a second communistic regime (you obviously don't know how it is... ask people who have experienced something like that), and I'm doing others a favor at the same time (I guess they have the same feelings about communism as I do, just not being aware of it).

And please, don't say that Google isn't a threat for the human freedom. Google Books has created a huge unwill of writing for European authors, and this is one of Google's "nicer" services. And yet no one does anything about it...

I know I can't do anything as a single person, but at least I decided to let others know...


Please answer on the following question, and then I can discuss further, because I know how strong relations some people already have with Google.

Do you consider that evolution can happen without alternatives?

The evolution theory is just a model, but that model can describe many phenomenon around the world, and the tech world isn't an exception. Google is slowly but steadily gaining monopoly on every single market (except Windows to be replaced by Chrome OS within 10 years if attraction against Google won't be done), and that can't certainly be good for the future of the human kind, right!?

Please reply what you think about that, and don't say that this is fantasy or something else: this is the reality - a reality which I don't want to be part of. I don't know how it's about you, at least I'm doing something to change it.


I can't do much, but it's better than nothing. At least I'm not defending a company that doesn't need it.



Since I joined here last month you obviously don't know much about me, but I did the same thing against Microsoft's Windows services some years ago - which isn't a threat anymore. In my opinion, Google is the one we must focus on right now, or who else has the highest priority according to you (because there's always some evil in this world)?
 
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#2204
1. Root access is not 'illegal' for Android, nor is it for the iPhone.
Well, it is commonly called jailbreaking, Not exacty the kind of activity I like to spend time doing. I have been using, administering and programming on Unix machines for more than two decades now, and I get it as a personal offense if I am not given the root password of *my* machine. With the responsibilities that root passwords bring.

2. You do not need a Google account on many roms.
When I first read about Android I learned that the phone would not even activate if you did not first set up an account at Google. This was sufficient to make me lose any interest on the platform. We are talking about attitudes here.

3. You can also develop in C, C++, Python, and Lua.
I admit that I did not follow the Android world too much recently. But that is because it has lost any appeal it may have had for an IT professional since the N900 has appeared. The N900 has a CPU that is powerful enough to compile stuff, and lots of memory. I can connect to it via SSH and it will appear just like any other machine I use. But when the USB cable is detached, it is a fully-functional phone plus organizer plus media player plus ... ... ...
Unbeatable.
 
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#2205
Ok Guys this is the conversation that i had with Peter Maemo (Schnider) via twitter:

Yerjoshy @PeterMaemo Hey Peter what is your name? Peter Maemo or Peter Delaymo? Please the release of N900 now!!!

PeterMaemo @Yerjoshy Come on. I understand that you want the N900 rather today than later, but with these "jokes" we are not gettings much further...

Thatīs all and now he is talking in twitter about the vision of their boss(which is delay the n900 to obtain more pre-orders) and the charges and any other matter diferent of the release of the N900.

Sorry Nuk Nuk and NvyUs but you will be waiting for the n900 for long!!!
 
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#2206
Originally Posted by zico View Post
Why should they?
I can almost promise that in maximum 2 years from now, the android will dominate, and we all will want an android device, i mean come on, its google ftw!
maemo will be nice, for now. for next year, yeah maybe. but thats it. you will see.

don't get me wrong, i will develop for the n900, but thats not enough to keep up with googles android. its absurd to think that.
Yep because there is nothing I love more than developing for a platform where every time I write a piece of software I have to write a version for every goddam phone that comes out.

Right now I cannot guarantee any of my software will run from one phone to the next. So that means as a dev I need to have one of every phone (or pay exorbitant fees for a test bed) and I need to have the following SDK envs

Droid - Android 2.0 - completely new and undocumented API changes for almost all hardware

Cliq - Android 1.5 - All the new perms stuff in 1.6 breaks it

Hero - 1.6 with extras - HTC have made acknowledged changed to the way layouts are parsed and that causes many apps to act weirdly on them

G1 - 1.6 about as vanilla as it gets.

And its only going to get worse as Samsung enter the fray and make their changes to the base OS leading to more splintering leading to more devs losing their effing minds trying to code against the API only to find that the API no longer applies on many phones and now needs some new API that of course HTC et al do not provide documentation for.

GOOD TIMES!!!
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#2207
Funny, just seen this:

From 10 November, the iPhone can be unlocked for O2 customers in the UK http://tr.im/ECFs

I bet that's going to shake up the market!
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#2208
On another note http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/09/n...f-youre-lucky/

SON OF A BEOCH

And

http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/08/f...broken-phones/

LOL
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Guys Do you remenber the maemo project competition? i found this please read the part of send the prize for the winners and check the dates!!!! this is the dates of release of the N900 ithink so.

http://www.maemoproject.com/MaemoProjectTCs.pdf


or better here is:


Determination of the winner
All entries will be entered into a draw which will be decided at random by an independent
adjudicator. The competition period ends on November 13.
Winner will be notified by mail, email, or telephone by November 20, 2009 to the address and/or
phone number provided by winner upon registration as a Participant in the Contest. An email
notifying winner of his/her Prize will include a request for his/her preferred mailing address.
Winner must respond with his/her preferred mailing address by November 27, 2009 failing which
the winner shall forfeit the Prize. In the event of such forfeiture, Sponsor shall select another
winner based on the second name drawn or dispose of the Prize in any way it deems fit.
The Prize shall be delivered to the winner at the address provided by the winner. Such delivery
may be by courier service, postal service or other means as determined solely by Sponsor. Sponsor
shall not be liable for any loss or damage whatsoever which is suffered (including, but not limited
to, indirect or consequential loss) in the delivery of the Prize to the winner.
 
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Originally Posted by 406NotAcceptable View Post
1. Root access is not 'illegal' for Android, nor is it for the iPhone.
2. You do not need a Google account on many roms.
3. You can also develop in C, C++, Python, and Lua.
1. If you obtained either an Android device or an iPhone through a network subsidy then you are most likely restricted from rooting/jailbraking by the contract you signed with the network. Doing so would put you in breach of contract.

3. From what I read and saw about the scripting capabilities of Android it seemed to me that you couldn't create a full blown application, in Python for example. It didn't look to me that you could just give someone a "myApp.py" file and have it show up as a full blown GUI app when ran, as you can in Maemo. If that is the case, Python scripts in Android are restricted to acting like macros. At least that is what I gathered from here:

http://google-opensource.blogspot.co...scripting.html
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