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Thanks ossipena, I'm convinced. Shame on you, sio2interactive.
 
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#12
as per the WIKI , criteria for promotion says...

''At least 3 members of the testers group have voted. (proposed improvement, not final)"

so I guess this still requires the genuine testers to vote , no ?
Is this testers group an officially selected one ?
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i feel really disappointed.

idea was really promising, price wasn't so high, testingsquad could probably have taken both apps to testinglist next (to week 8) if asked nicely from VV, ......

..and then one ruins everything with such a transparent trick.


e: I quess the rule of 3 isn't yet implemented or anything but not totally sure.
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This really blows. :|
Why on earth someone would do anything like this?
 
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Well, for money, no ? :-)
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Originally Posted by Venomrush View Post
Then 10 users with 0 karma voted pretty much at around the same time.

No doubt SIO2 Interactive created these users to spam votes getting these apps to Extras.
The problem with any crowdsourced process is that you can do something like this to "astroturf" your stuff through.

A pretty good way to prevent this would be to require at least some of the testers voting +1 that have a sufficient amount of Karma. Though then you may raise barrier of entry for new developers...
 

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The thing that's really depressing is that we want these games, and he wants to sell these games. This potentially ruins everything.
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#18
My suggestion (I'm not in any way responsible for repository policy):

* Pull from extras as there was abuse involved
* An apology made from sio2interactive
* Fix the bug that enabled this to happen
* Fix bugs on sio2interactive game side, reintroduce to extras queue
* Run through QA again
* End result is a QA'ed product in Extras.

And both sides has learnt a valuable lesson - QA can help to improve your program and we have learnt that we need to watch out to not diminish our quality of Extras.
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#19
The quarantine skipping was because I missed a setting. So that one is my bad.

The whole idea about showing who voted what was to prevent and catch things like happened here.

This is clearly abuse and the packages will need to be pulled and the publisher will be banned from Extras.
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The problem is they used underhanded tactics to publicise the game.

End result?
SIO2 Interactive have lost a lot of credibility and would you trust anything from them in the future?

Well done SIO2 Interactive you have just alienated your target audience!

I think your plan to make some money from this community has greatly diminished!



I think the voting process is probably fine as it is - as long as we can detect these type of dodgy practise.
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