Originally Posted by iball

Yes, just like an Ipod Touch/iPhone.


El Jobso says 10 hours of constant video playback and a month of "standby", i.e. with the screen off and it not doing anything.


I know. It was just as bad if not worse when I was living in Germany.


When you click on a link on one website that opens another "window" or "tab" on a desktop PC, on the iPhone it opens up another browser window to the right of the one you're on and then jumps over to it. It's pretty seamless.


Yes, tons....

....and there's the rub. Tons of free stuff, very little of the free stuff is actually any good. But with the built-in iTunes reviews and Google it's very easy to find the good free stuff.


Nope. There's a free version of Jaadu VNC out for one to try to see if it works for them though it's kind of crippled. The full version you have to buy.


Here's the thing: Apple - the company itself - has only one or two apps actually in the iTunes app store. The rest are third-party developers. And the ones Apple does have in the iTunes store are free.


Then stay away from an iPhone/iPad.
iTunes doesn't really tie me down. I sync once a day to refresh my podcasts and update any apps, and it only takes a minute or two to do so. Of course, I'm on a Macbook Pro....I'm sure it takes longer or is more buggy on a Windows PC.

Originally Posted by iball

Speed. Raw speed. For power users of remote access apps, WIndows Mobile doesn't cut it. Maemo devices don't cut it. Symbian, too many button clicks.
Click, swipe, tap, tap and I'm logging into my server/desktop/home Mac.
People keep posting about "why not get a netbook?"
I've got one. A Lenovo S10E w/2GB of RAM. Since we're an authorized IBM/Lenovo reseller, I got mine pretty cheap too. Even got a spare drive with Snow Leopard installed on it.
But to remote into something I have to pull it out of the bag, open it up, hit the power button, wait for Windows 7 Enterprise to "resume", then click the RDP/VNC/SSH icon I have pinned to the task tray, then wait for it to open, then type in the server name, then wait, then login to the remote server.

Originally Posted by Thor

Thanks for the replies!

Originally Posted by Thor

A few things I'm not clear about. Does this mean you can open say 10 webpages all at the same time and not have to go back and reload and so on, say when underground with no signal ?

Originally Posted by Thor

Is there a way to load and unload things without having to use iTunes?

Originally Posted by Thor

Are there great free GPS/Navigation software ? And ones that don't need a data connection for when I'm on holiday overseas? Can you pre-load maps for holidays too ?

Originally Posted by Thor

Google Maps would be way too expensive that way. A bunch of text messages I sent in Sweden over a 3 day period was charged here for around $20 so you can imagine how ridiculous it would be with roaming data charges

Originally Posted by Thor

Also, a few days ago I was trying to send a ringtone to a friend's iphone and we couldn't figure out how to do it.

Originally Posted by Thor

Any ideas what to do ? We must have done something wrong. Pairing seemed to work. I tried straight afterwards with a friend's LG phone and no problems sending a pdf file.

Originally Posted by egoshin

Stupid question - what do you do AFTER you connect? As for me it seems that connection to server is needed to TYPE something and type more... more... and more. The real KBD can't be replaced and the significance of netbook with full KBD is a gem here.

Originally Posted by Thor

For me it seems you trade off the convenience of work with server to convenience of connection to server.

Originally Posted by Thor

I guess... you are in sales/marketing, right? (Nothing personal, it is just a way how our marketing uses the remote connection - connect and show that... may be show some scripts but no real work).

Originally Posted by Thor

BTW, even Windows 7 has a mode "suspend to RAM" which resumes in 1-3 secs. At least my old Vista can do it, and I assume W7 can do it too.

Originally Posted by iball

No problem.


Hmmm...not sure. The most pages I've had open at one time was 5 and I was able to flick back and forth between them while within mobile Safari and didn't have any try to reload on me.


Not unless you're jailbroken however there is iTunes on the device itself.


There's one or two of them. I bought the Navigon app and it's excellent. Navigon (and Tom Tom and several more) all pre-load apps on the device itself. Any one of them has more functionality than Ovi maps does at the moment.


Boy don't I know it. I ran up some horrendous charges in Europe, Africa, and the ME. Luckily my employer was the U.S. Government so they footed the bill on their phone chip.


You can't....unless your jailbroken. Honestly, I don't play the "ringtone trading game", I just make my own. Once jailbroken you have hte option to download and install FREE ringtones using Cydia. If your friends are also on iPhones and jailbroken they can do the same. Or you can make your own and just email them once done from your main computer.


I guess you're not jailbroken? There's some iPhone apps out there for bluetooth sharing, but again I don't do things like that so I haven't researched it thoroughly.

Originally Posted by iball

Originally Posted by egoshin
Stupid question - what do you do AFTER you connect? As for me it seems that connection to server is needed to TYPE something and type more... more... and more. The real KBD can't be replaced and the significance of netbook with full KBD is a gem here.
I use three fingers to swipe up and it goes to fullscreen. Then I move hte mouse to where I want it. If I need to type, I triple-finger-swipe up again and the keyboard just pops out. I then type in what I need and then triple-finger-swipe down and the keyboard goes away. Once you get used to it it's FAST.

Originally Posted by Thor
For me it seems you trade off the convenience of work with server to convenience of connection to server.
Ummm....no. I can check services and logs on servers just fine this way.

Originally Posted by Thor
I guess... you are in sales/marketing, right? (Nothing personal, it is just a way how our marketing uses the remote connection - connect and show that... may be show some scripts but no real work).
Ummm...not just no, but fcuk no. I work for a living.

Originally Posted by Thor
BTW, even Windows 7 has a mode "suspend to RAM" which resumes in 1-3 secs. At least my old Vista can do it, and I assume W7 can do it too.
Right. Any Windows 7 netbook can do it as well however you sacrifice battery life with that, and it cuts the battery down fast. That was the first thing I set mine up for, but after leaving it like that at the end of the day the battery was completely drained. On my netbook I just close the lid and after a minute or two it's finished "hibernating" and powers off. Come back days later and I can "resume" it to where I left off however it takes another minute or two to get there.
Again, I suggest some of you who doubt the iPhone's - and future iPad's - remote terminal/viewer capabilities need to actually do a hands-on with it first to get a real feeling for if it fits for you.

Originally Posted by Thor

I didn't originally post those.. it was egoshin, how did it manage to attribute the quotes to me ? Is there a problem with this site?

Originally Posted by Thor

Thanks again for the reply... you're probably getting sick of me!

Originally Posted by Thor

The guy with the iphone won't jailbreak it, he just wants things to work and was getting frustrated with sending ringtones, contacts, video clips, basically anything over bluetooth... anyone else with ideas are welcome.

Originally Posted by Thor

Can you transfer your music via wifi without itunes? that would be quite good.

Originally Posted by Thor

I don't really want to pay for a navigation application. Upgrading to a new phone in 12 months time may mean buying yet another navigation application.

Originally Posted by Thor

Similarly with buying games and other software. Or is there a way to transfer our iphone apps onto new phones?

Originally Posted by Thor

If so, can I send a copy to a friend ?

Originally Posted by iball

Yes, but there's no need to hack a script to do something on an N900 that "just works" on my iPhone.

That's just it, I got tired of hacking my N800 to just get basic functionality the iPhone provides out of the box. I also got tired of waiting for Nokia to update things on their end, which of course they did....for the N900 instead.

Originally Posted by iball

Any Windows 7 netbook can do it as well however you sacrifice battery life with that, and it cuts the battery down fast. That was the first thing I set mine up for, but after leaving it like that at the end of the day the battery was completely drained.