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2010-05-26
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Tried 3 different setups here. All fail at flashing eMMC. Gets stuck looking waiting for device.
1) Win 7, 64-bit, driver signing off: Wouldn't find N900 at all
2) Vista, 32-bit: Flashes fiasco no problem, waiting for device for eMMC
3) XP, SP3: Same as Vista, fiasco fine, won't do eMMC.
Will try yet another computer today (on which I've successfully flashed eMMC before) . Currently PR1.2 is very unstable on my N900, I really think I need to start fresh, but can't yet flash the eMMC. Pretty annoying, not using anything non-standard, bone-stock off the shelf Dells and Compaqs.
1) Win 7, 64-bit, driver signing off: Wouldn't find N900 at all
2) Vista, 32-bit: Flashes fiasco no problem, waiting for device for eMMC
3) XP, SP3: Same as Vista, fiasco fine, won't do eMMC.
Will try yet another computer today (on which I've successfully flashed eMMC before) . Currently PR1.2 is very unstable on my N900, I really think I need to start fresh, but can't yet flash the eMMC. Pretty annoying, not using anything non-standard, bone-stock off the shelf Dells and Compaqs.
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*Consumer*, not a developer! I apologize for any inconvenience.
My script to backup /home and /opt
Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant, Huawei S7, N900(retired), N800(retired)
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2010-05-26
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Try to update with Ubuntu Live CD.
It recognizes eMMC. I suppose that Windows OS does not recognize the file system of eMMC.
Regards.
It recognizes eMMC. I suppose that Windows OS does not recognize the file system of eMMC.
Regards.
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2010-05-26
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Originally Posted by slender
You seem to really know it all don't you so ok read this then talk....
Never, is really powerful word.
No-one has probably said that it would not work, but then again do you really think that Nokia guides that procedure just to fck with people...yes probably not. And what makes you think itīs better way to flash? Can you give some examples and results?
Also "reversable in any case" is powerful thing to say and i would never ever say something like that. For example as we have seen gsm-fw is not reversible but you can make it work by making some stuff that is not well documented. So you really really piss me off. You just say different things as facts just because you have read that some user somwhere has tried and it worked for them. I wonder how your friends like being with you mister "I know it all" (except that I can't prove anything).
As the fw and/or emmc is NOT written to a worm or rom device in any way then it IS completely reversible as you would know if you did some homework on the schematics of the N900.
Anything we write to the N900 IS completely reversible and i don't even have to be a Nokia design engineer to know that after looking at the schematics, they were at least clever enough to go that far on the design to let it be open for development purposes so you really do need to get YOUR facts right before trying to argue with someone with over 2 decades of programming and troubleshooting experience as i base my facts on general everyday experience of past work and sometimes don't even have to think to know an answer.
Fact also that the only thing software driven that will kill N900 is a overclock situation but apart from that i don't see anything else "kill-able" by software in the device (hence the closed drivers to keep developers from doing harm).
Try to at least spell and please do refrain from making uneducated nasty comments.
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2010-05-26
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
The point here is that I hereby admit that actually I really do not know much. I can speculate and guess, but to say something as fact here I would need some links/sources/documentation to back my facts.
You seem to really know it all don't you so ok read this then talk....
As the fw and/or emmc is NOT written to a worm or rom device in any way then it IS completely reversible as you would know if you did some homework on the schematics of the N900.
Anything we write to the N900 IS completely reversible and i don't even have to be a Nokia design engineer to know that after looking at the schematics, they were at least clever enough to go that far on the design to let it be open for development purposes so you really do need to get YOUR facts right before trying to argue with someone with over 2 decades of programming and troubleshooting experience as i base my facts on general everyday experience of past work and sometimes don't even have to think to know an answer.
Fact also that the only thing software driven that will kill N900 is a overclock situation but apart from that i don't see anything else "kill-able" by software in the device (hence the closed drivers to keep developers from doing harm).
Try to at least spell and please do refrain from making uneducated nasty comments.
And still I do not care that you have seen schematics. Probably nokian's have testbed where they can do whatever they want to this device. So what? Right now it seems that modem fw is not reversible with given tools. You can always of course argue that any encryption is breakable with right tools and enough resources but thatīs just academic jerk offing.Saying that itīs a fact that you canīt brick your N900 sounds just bit off. For example I have been on forums where people have bricked their cd-rom drives, GPU's, motherboards just by applying wrong FW. YES itīs possible to reverse it but not by themselves so basically they have killed their device and only way to resurrect it is to send back to vendor.
And btw. as you know this is my second language and at least I know how to put paragraphs. And please try to think even then when you thought that you do not have to think.
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2010-05-26
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Well Linux was the solution to solve my problem, it worked just fine without any issues.
I write here the basic steps just in case someone else got a similar issue:
1. Get a Ubuntu Live CD (Just download the default Desktop version) and burn it on a empty CD
2. Get the .tar.gz version of the flasher from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-d...-downloads.php and download the related firmware from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php
3. Move the downloaded files on a USB stick or something similiar, you can unzip already the .tar.gz file and put all files including the firmwares in the same folder.
4. Boot from the CD (You may need to set your CD drive as first boot device) and select "Test Ubuntu (Live mode)".
5. Open a terminal and linux and open your USB stick (Probably in /media/<stickname>/...)
6. Use the command "sudo ./flasher-3.5 -F <firmware-image> -f -R" to flash your device, it seems to be better if you flash the eMMC image first. Be sure that you start the flasher first and connect the phone afterwards, it will detect it just fine then.
That's it, everything worked fine for me in a few minutes.
Last edited by Crogge; 2010-05-26 at 20:29.
I write here the basic steps just in case someone else got a similar issue:
1. Get a Ubuntu Live CD (Just download the default Desktop version) and burn it on a empty CD
2. Get the .tar.gz version of the flasher from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-d...-downloads.php and download the related firmware from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php
3. Move the downloaded files on a USB stick or something similiar, you can unzip already the .tar.gz file and put all files including the firmwares in the same folder.
4. Boot from the CD (You may need to set your CD drive as first boot device) and select "Test Ubuntu (Live mode)".
5. Open a terminal and linux and open your USB stick (Probably in /media/<stickname>/...)
6. Use the command "sudo ./flasher-3.5 -F <firmware-image> -f -R" to flash your device, it seems to be better if you flash the eMMC image first. Be sure that you start the flasher first and connect the phone afterwards, it will detect it just fine then.
That's it, everything worked fine for me in a few minutes.
Last edited by Crogge; 2010-05-26 at 20:29.
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2010-05-26
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Originally Posted by Crogge
Thanx! I might go this route. My Laptop dual boots WIN 7 x64 and Kumbutu 10.4.
Well Linux was the solution to solve my problem, it worked just fine without any issues.
I write here the basic steps just in case someone else got a similar issue:
1. Get a Ubuntu Live CD (Just download the default Desktop version) and burn it on a empty CD
2. Get the .tar.gz version of the flasher from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-d...-downloads.php and download the related firmware from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php
3. Move the downloaded files on a USB stick or something similiar, you can unzip already the .tar.gz file and put all files including the firmwares in the same folder.
4. Boot from the CD (You may need to set your CD drive as first boot device) and select "Test Ubuntu (Live mode)".
5. Open a terminal and linux and open your USB stick (Probably in /media/<stickname>/...)
6. Use the command "sudo ./flasher-3.5 -F <firmware-image> -f -R" to flash your device, it seems to be better if you flash the eMMC image first. Be sure that you start the flasher first and connect the phone afterwards, it will detect it just fine then.
That's it, everything worked fine for me in a few minutes.
The instructions all say to do FIASCO before eMMC. Why are you suggesting the reverse?
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N900 as a Drive Letter in Windows, FULL Root access!!
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N900 as a Drive Letter in Windows, FULL Root access!!
Maemo! There's a BUG for that!
Cutomize Maemo!
Noobies - Noobies 2 - Maemo 5 - 101
Maemo FAQ
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2010-05-26
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Originally Posted by les_garten
Sure, but I don't know if it works also on a 64bit Linux fine.
Thanx! I might go this route. My Laptop dual boots WIN 7 x64 and Kumbutu 10.4.
The instructions all say to do FIASCO before eMMC. Why are you suggesting the reverse?
Well, it got suggested in this thread and other threads show that its more effective that way. Still I think it doesn't really matter much.
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2010-05-26
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what will happen if disconnected after it says unable to find usb ...during emmc flash
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2010-05-27
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Originally Posted by Crogge
I haven't seen anyone reference an issue with 64 bit Linux. This aversion to 64 bit stuff needs to be stopped, especially from an ostensibly Geeky/Techy branch of this type of company! I haven't been on a 32 bit OS for a while.
Sure, but I don't know if it works also on a 64bit Linux fine.
Well, it got suggested in this thread and other threads show that its more effective that way. Still I think it doesn't really matter much.
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N900 as a Drive Letter in Windows, FULL Root access!!
Maemo! There's a BUG for that!
Cutomize Maemo!
Noobies - Noobies 2 - Maemo 5 - 101
Maemo FAQ
N900 as a Drive Letter in Windows, FULL Root access!!
Maemo! There's a BUG for that!
Cutomize Maemo!
Noobies - Noobies 2 - Maemo 5 - 101
Maemo FAQ
I got the update in my app manager, downloaded and installed it. Now do not have any problems at all.
So I suggest you - if you are not in a hurry - wait for app manager to receive the update.
Regards.