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star wars > star trek
No. The best was early star trek tv shows with William Shatner and Lenard Nimoy.
 
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exactly......

anyway...
"it's a choice between two weevils" said the cow...

that said...
the original Star trek is superior ...
from many standpoints...
including the very first televised inter racial kiss.
among other ground breaking things..
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Alright.
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So...
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/im...mount-pinatubo
Could we create some tempeory mega clouds to postpone BBQ planet earth.
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Actually ...when I think of it...
It is hardly a fair comparison Dave...
Star Trek had ground breaking concepts and such..
Star Wars completely ripped the lid off Sci fi ...
I was young and I remember when it came out...
EVERYONE went to see it...some a dozen times or more...
It was a crazy time...everyone went mad for it...
It really was the dawn of the geeks as we know it...
accepted in popular culture..
If one could hit on any 3 monumental films and say...
"This is when people "thought" and pondered on sciences, and were curious and aimed their careers as a consequence.."
Then "2001: A Space Odyssey" ...
was that moment.
And
"This is when society embraced and went gaga for Sci fi ...and it simply started to become part of our common experience...
Then "Star Wars"...
was that moment.
And lastly if any film could be seen by historians to have had such an impact as to have shaped our futures' course as a technological civilization..
Then "BladeRunner"...is that film.....

So yeah.
Star Wars / Star Trek ...I think...


As far as what we can do to stave off the worst of what is coming...like it or not...
Planting trees lots of them...will help to naturally balance out the emissions we are putting out as a species...
It is cheaper and more effective to clean our air, soak up airborne toxins, soak up co2 and put out air ...
Forests impede many storm based catastrophes by dragging the life out them, Forests retain the cool of the day and more efficiently
The list goes on..
It is just more effective , more practical..more efficient,and works better than building something that will have cost a vast amount in resources, and pollution JUST to build.

Same goes for swamps, marshes, fens, bogs, etc...
For the longest time we considered as a species that they were terrible and unsightly...drained them, paved over them, dumped on them, built on them...
When what we were doing was the WORST thing possible.

If the trees are the lungs of the planet..
Then marshes and swamps and fens are the kidneys and liver...
Purifying and cleaning the water of toxins...

We have been going about changing this place based on what we think works....and only for our own aggrandizement ..or our own convenience...
We STILL have people profiting off the planet and disputing climate change ...since they have a vested interest.
No one wants to sacrifice their economic growth, for the sake of their own futures..and their children ...no one wants to change and adapt to what must be.
Instead, everyone wants bigger cars, cheaper fuel, cheaper bills, cheaper food, hell, 10 billion mobile devices ....more...flood the planet ...and all with a disposable lifetime based on a few years...
OF COURSE we are screwed, and everyone wants it this way.
ALL the while the boomerang effect of these choices comes back around as climate change ...costing more for what we desire...
It is a bad circular trap we are in.

The price of that is coming VERY VERY fast now...and it is compounding interest....
Like a snowball rolled down a mountain...
as it comes towards us at the bottom...
It is growing mammoth in size and proportions ...and is picking up speed as it comes at us...at a phenomenal rate...
It isn't a snowball anymore...
It is an all consuming avalanche ...

Its a bad bad situation we are unlikely to survive...
the longer we continue on this idea of "consumption" as status quo.

I thought a long time ago ...I would never in my lifetime see the beginning of such dramatic change and the fall of our civilization...possibly our species and most others with us as well...

Now ..I see that I will definitely be alive for the beginning of it at the very least.

We COULD actually come out of this...
But the only way that is happening is ...
EVERYONE works together, EVERYONE understands we must start paying the bill we owe...by reducing our waste.
We can feed everyone here, we can provide for everyone here, we have the tech and science, we have the knowledge and ability.
But the wealthy and powerful, the vain and the greedy, the violent and irreconcilable MUST be stopped, to do so.
The unsustainable lifestyles of city dwellers have no place in taking care of the planet.
How exactly do they?
Hit the "Like" button on facebook or twitter for some NGO?
Put a few bucks towards OXFAM in an envelope?
Really....
Many are going to have to ditch their seemingly impregnable concepts of "living" and get real.
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I wish I could easily say the previous was a rant...
But it isn't
Its a crisis.
an existential threat life as we know it will soon face.

The scientists said "We can't go near 2 degrees hotter for our temp."
Everyone agrees and says "Sure...2 degrees..."
Implements the USELESS concepts such as "Carbon Credits"
and more...
and make lots of promises with minuscule action attached.

Now the scientists are saying we may hit 5 degrees or higher..

That isn't climate change, that becomes runaway greenhouse and worse.
Think...of Venus and how inhospitable it is...
THAT is the kind of result of change we are heading for.
Un-Correctable climate change...that just keeps building momentum.

And this is the price for what folks want.
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But if we can build/create something that prevent beams from hitting the earth we can atleast compensating for some of that heating and cooling down the surfuce.
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ok Dave...3 scenarios.

scenario 1- we build a huge pair of sunglasses for the planet to block the normal uv and solar rays...or "air scrubbers that clean the air"....
at GREAT cost of materials ...time (we don't have) ...labour and monumental environmental damage and waste...
and then what?
Naturally we continue to turn this into an inhospitable place by exceeding a new higher and even more devastating threshold.
We aren't about to stop doing what we do in this scenario...
It just buys us a bit more time to do yet worse damage.

Scenario 2-
Instead of the Macro project.
Micro projects, nano tech could reverse a great deal of the damage done here...
We would have to release GI and AI and SI created nano tech that has been designed not only quickly but has been foreseen and designed to be error proof . The nano tech needs to be designed by intelligence greater than ours to take in all the needed factors for stabilizing the planet properly ...we can't do it alone...it would be too full of potential disaster and the time would take to create it would be too long...
also the speed of the nano tech to do their job and their numbers must be very high to do it effectively to reverse the damage current and reverse said damage...
All of that relies on having enough time...enough time to come up with a (preferably SI ) intelligence that can perform the design and implementation and maintenance ...time we may not have.
But it is the cheaper alternative and more realistic to alter and reverse the dangerous course our planet is on.
Of course as long as we keep thinking that an invention, innovation, or some other "powers that be" will save us...
It will still be business as usual and we continue of dangerous ways ...
So the nanotech would be a buffer that would be perpetually strained due to our behaviour ...and as such there would be risks of collapses in the ability to do its jobs.

Scenario 3 - We get our collective crap together. Stop the massive waste of warring, and military budgets, stop bickering and fighting, stop starving and impoverishing one another, stop killing one another, stop polluting and living wasteful lives, stop the wholesale plunder of limited natural resources we will need for the future, stop the rampant cancerous consumerism that everyone is addicted to.
Get along, use our combined knowledge and sciences and cure this place, fix it up, change the concept of what a normal lifestyle is and what one should be aspiring to, and we could do it, we still have time.
We can do it, we have enough of the important infrastructure built on this planet, and enough people to do it.
Conversely we have enough people, plenty, but they don't get along, and that is the first thing that has to stop.
Those that don't want to fix this place , have to go, for the sake of the future of our species, and very very likely, for the sake of almost all species here as well.
So that minority or majority ..(however the numbers work out)..that impedes, must go.
It is a harsh scenario, but if such folks as don't wish to live in peace with one another and get along and work together, then they are impeding.
and that could result in no one here at all to bicker and fight and argue and kill and blow up and exterminate the other...

And the longer we postpone effective solutions, the cost of the bill mounts higher.
The price to be paid escalates.
it isn't a static bill.
If we tighten our belts, help one another, cease hostilities, suck up the price now, it means we avoid a more terrible price in the future, or the final price if we do nothing.
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Scenario1 > scanario3 > scenario2
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Scenario1 > scanario3 > scenario2
Physical laws of the Universe > Human Race > Dave999 et al.

In other words: we're sunk...
 
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