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2010-11-23
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usable kernels start with 2.6.35(thats what ubuntu uses) together with bugfixes. 2.6.36 slowly becomes usable, still needs patches.
btw: i still need a frontend for the phone.
EDIT1: i think 2.6.33 was the first kernel that was able to boot but thats more like: "hurray we booted it".
Unfortunately, the new microSD i just got in the mail today is garbage and has already failed, so i'm still installing to the emmc.
I've got bootmenu-n900 loading after uboot. Can I use uboot to dual-boot a different kernel from the emmc? Sorry for the lame question, but I don't really know where to begin with that one.
I would try karmic, but I've never been able to get around the inverted touchscreen when using kernel-power. Perhaps now that I have a BT mouse, it'd be worth giving it another shot.
Anyone know the command to run the bluetooth settings from the terminal on karmic?
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2010-11-23
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a) uboot: yes. works fine. just point it to the kernel and the rootpartition and it boots.
b) your problem with bluetooth has little to do with ubuntu but something to do with maemo and how to set up bluetooth under maemo. as you are not using ubuntu but maemo you should be able to use the maemo stack for bluetooth and have no problem at all.
c) login: did you realize that it is a unfinished ubuntu setup or did you finalize the ubuntu setup? how did you get your useraccount? i guess you did a chroot and never came across the real problems...
d) networkmanager: is it working? powermanagment applet(any from ubuntu): does it work? or do you have the bme in the background? how does ubuntu interact with bme? could you successfully make a call with ubuntu?
EDIT: to that networmanager: ubuntu needs something to enable the phone. so what do you use? ubuntu's phonstack is telepathy-ring with ofono and on top maybe empathy. try it and look into you logs. and you'll see!
Last edited by lunat; 2010-11-23 at 12:07.
b) your problem with bluetooth has little to do with ubuntu but something to do with maemo and how to set up bluetooth under maemo. as you are not using ubuntu but maemo you should be able to use the maemo stack for bluetooth and have no problem at all.
c) login: did you realize that it is a unfinished ubuntu setup or did you finalize the ubuntu setup? how did you get your useraccount? i guess you did a chroot and never came across the real problems...
d) networkmanager: is it working? powermanagment applet(any from ubuntu): does it work? or do you have the bme in the background? how does ubuntu interact with bme? could you successfully make a call with ubuntu?
EDIT: to that networmanager: ubuntu needs something to enable the phone. so what do you use? ubuntu's phonstack is telepathy-ring with ofono and on top maybe empathy. try it and look into you logs. and you'll see!
Originally Posted by preflex
I haven't had any trouble booting, logging in, and getting online with firefox (once everything is set up). I would describe it as mostly usable on 2.6.28-power45.
Unfortunately, the new microSD i just got in the mail today is garbage and has already failed, so i'm still installing to the emmc.
I've got bootmenu-n900 loading after uboot. Can I use uboot to dual-boot a different kernel from the emmc? Sorry for the lame question, but I don't really know where to begin with that one.
I would try karmic, but I've never been able to get around the inverted touchscreen when using kernel-power. Perhaps now that I have a BT mouse, it'd be worth giving it another shot.
Anyone know the command to run the bluetooth settings from the terminal on karmic?
Last edited by lunat; 2010-11-23 at 12:07.
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2010-11-23
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a) uboot: yes. works fine. just point it to the kernel and the rootpartition and it boots.
b) your problem with bluetooth has little to do with ubuntu but something to do with maemo and how to set up bluetooth under maemo. as you are not using ubuntu but maemo you should be able to use the maemo stack for bluetooth and have no problem at all.
c) login: did you realize that it is a unfinished ubuntu setup or did you finalize the ubuntu setup? how did you get your useraccount? i guess you did a chroot and never came across the real problems...
d) networkmanager: is it working?
powermanagment applet(any from ubuntu): does it work?
could you successfully make a call with ubuntu?
Really, my main reason for wanting to do this is to get a normal window manager and full keyboard support. I know i could just use easy debian for a window manager, but ctrl and alt don't work even with the bt-hid scripts. And my bluetooth keyboard performs even worse inside easydebian.
Thanks for your help. I'm not really bothered if the OS i use is some sort of Frankenstein hybrid between ubuntu and maemo, as long as it meets my needs.
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2010-11-23
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Originally Posted by preflex
yeah. the real fun starts if you realy do the first boot. it initializes the system askes you for login, for your locals(keyboard), the timezone...
naturally. After setting up the user account in the chroot, I remove linux-image* (to avoid problems with updates), and then install openssh-server and wicd.
and somwhere in the process... it crashes(while you are going through the wizard, networkmager probes the devices and ... ). thats what i ment with you missed a lot of fun.
you could simply chroot from maemo. some "easy ubuntu" (like the easy debian only with ubuntu ) in that case you have everything set up from maemo and the desktop from ubuntu(not completly stable but not too bad a solution if it is for the apps or the windowmanager and omitting a lot trouble ).
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2010-11-23
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yeah. the real fun starts if you realy do the first boot. it initializes the system askes you for login, for your locals(keyboard), the timezone...
and somwhere in the process... it crashes(while you are going through the wizard, networkmager probes the devices and ... ). thats what i ment with you missed a lot of fun.
you could simply chroot from maemo. some "easy ubuntu" (like the easy debian only with ubuntu ) in that case you have everything set up from maemo and the desktop from ubuntu(not completly stable but not too bad a solution if it is for the apps or the windowmanager and omitting a lot trouble ).
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2010-11-23
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Originally Posted by preflex
the crashing and nm working or not is a kernel thing. that the dialog doesn't apear is not: the image as is, is not prepared to pop it up. meaning in essence if you don't use a chroot you end up with no login and if you use a chroot the setup is not finalized.
Why doesn't it do this when running the maemo kernel? I would have figured gdm would just launch that if there were no user accounts or something. This is a kernel thing? I suppose it's more complicated than i'd thought.
For me, the problem with this is the poor BT keyboard support inside maemo (no ctrl, alt, fn, or key repeat). I was hoping it would be better in ubuntu.
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2010-11-24
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Originally Posted by lunat
I'm using the bt-hid scripts on maemo to handle the bluetooth keyboard, and others have also had similar complaints. 100% keyboard support seems to be a no-go, at least for now. This thread looks promising: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...548#post872548
sory can't help you with that, my tries with bluetoth go as far as to pair with another machine. don't know anything about the keyboard issue. but as an idea: did you try to fuss with the xconfiguration of maemo? i can imagine that it just uses the keyboard definition it was told to use with the n900 keyboard and you need a second section for the other keyboard with a different kb type? but i don't know what i am talking about in this regard so thats only an idea ..,
Inside ubuntu, after actually entering the right command, (i'd goofed up on previous attempts, leaving out the first "modprobe;")I was able to pair the keyboard, but it didn't seem to actually do anything. I guess i'll be messing with the ubuntu xorg.conf this weekend.
My usb bluetooth adapter for my laptop should be arriving tomorrow, perhaps that will help me gain some insight on to how to handle this in ubuntu.
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2010-11-24
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i finished all mission
when i choose ubuntu from multiboot the phone stay in white screen in multiboot and phone freez
what is the problem ??
sorry for my bad english
Last edited by sajjji; 2010-11-24 at 15:55.
when i choose ubuntu from multiboot the phone stay in white screen in multiboot and phone freez
what is the problem ??
sorry for my bad english
Last edited by sajjji; 2010-11-24 at 15:55.
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2010-11-24
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Originally Posted by sajjji
try with frambuffer enabled and see what causes the trouble.
what is the problem ??
usable kernels start with 2.6.35(thats what ubuntu uses) together with bugfixes. 2.6.36 slowly becomes usable, still needs patches.
btw: i still need a frontend for the phone.
EDIT1: i think 2.6.33 was the first kernel that was able to boot but thats more like: "hurray we booted it".
EDIT2:2.6.37 might be tempting but i didn't see a lot of improvements so 2.6.36 with patches still seems the best to go atm.
EDIT3:segfauts and oopses are to expect unless everything is sane. and maemo kernel on ubuntu sure is not.
EDIT3: whatchout for thumb code as well....
Last edited by lunat; 2010-11-23 at 09:53.