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2011-11-16
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#12
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If you want to change NOKIA leadership you will first have to buy a lot of NOKIA stock, which, by the way, is going at a fairly decent price nowdays. Down over 30% for the year... Further, the decrease of stock price is not due to NOKIA's ecosystem but rather its elopsystem.
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2011-11-16
, 22:30
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@ Helsinki
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It's not reasonousable to wrote it here. Ofcource windows is full of trojans. But Elop is just one person who's working in Nokia.
There are more room at internet than one Maemo community portal for shout it out.
...Reason for change chief would came from stock holders.
There are more room at internet than one Maemo community portal for shout it out.
...Reason for change chief would came from stock holders.
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2011-11-16
, 23:34
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@ Germany
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Originally Posted by petrelli
Please don't confuse free as in freedom with free as in free beer!
Well, if windows was open source, now nobody would doubt that the change from Meego to Windows has been a GREAT thing. Suddenly Nokia is competing now at the same level as Android's and Apple, with only half of a year. Great. A huge success.
The problem here is that Windows is a closed business. But who cares about it? Nokia is not a non-profit organisation. The fact that we like more opensource SO's does not mean that anybody is forced to build a business around it.
I'm a big fan of Free Software but due to practical reasons I'd rather switch to a closed unixoid system like Solaris than to an open NT system like ReactOS (even if it were fully functional) if Linux and BSD were to die tomorrow. I highly appreciate the relatively open structure of Maemo, but more than that I value it to be a *nix system.
So to answer your question: I care!
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2011-11-17
, 02:00
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I like the straight "off the cuff" honesty going on here. Did any of you guys read the first response in this thread regarding Barnes and Noble versus Microsoft?
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2011-11-17
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Who cares? The damage is done and NOKIA lost. Just move on and enjoy the N9
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2011-11-17
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The word 'ecosystem' in this context is a euphemism for locking in consumers by taking advantage of (and often forcing) network externalities. This is what MS managed to do in the desktop OS market. Your boss uses Windoze, so you must use Windoze. Smartphone manufacturers are now starting to use the same tactics in the mobile sphere, and sadly it appears to be working.
You can still integrate 3th party services in your OS if you want tight integration, like its done with messaging on the N9.
Really, I hope that i never ever heard "ecosystem" out of Animal Planet It reminds me of bad'old'time, when we had communist propaganda, here in Poland Crafting words, that can mean anything in any context, but de facto doesn't mean anything (important).
Last edited by Rugoz; 2011-11-17 at 07:21.
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2011-11-17
, 07:59
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While a good effort I am not sure this will help.
Nokia will end when MS buys it cheap in 2-3 years.
Nokia will end when MS buys it cheap in 2-3 years.
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2011-11-17
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@ Hungary
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With Nokia WP7 devices out in the open, the real problem is not visible anymore. Elop delivered what he promised - the WP7 phones. It is another question, what WP7 means to Nokia in the long run, and how it will make it smaller and less independent; people will only see the shiny new Lumia 800 and believe that alls right with the Nokia. I guess Elop can stay in his position for years now, and there is a high chance he will never be challenged for crippling Nokia.
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2011-11-17
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It's not only the windows phone move that's bad. It's the execution too. Why announce the switch a year before you have any devices to sell?
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Proud coding competition 2012 winner: ρcam
My other apps: speedcrunch N9 N900 Jolla –– contactlaunch –– timenow
Nemo UX blog: Grog
My website: qwazix.com
My job: oob
and about android: endof 2012.android has loosed ALOT of its market cause of nokia+microsoft patent deals etc... same for apple...
every damn kid will by wpphones too cause of he integration with xbox and similar and also integration with windows on desktop.
so be happy to have the last cool linuxdevice like n9.
end of 2012 everything has changed to bader for the FOSS gurus