The facts are that Symbian is doing better and better, not worse. The absolute number of Symbian-based smartphones sold is increasing, as is the marketshare of these models. Source? The Q1 results that you linked to but didn't read yourself.

With TouchWiz? You must be joking. Had one TouchWiz phone in my hand for a 5 minutes and that was about enough of it. TouchWiz is very far from Sense. And with samsungs record of support I bet Galaxy S will have 0 firmware upgrades and no android 2.2.

If you think Symbian is not good you are very mistaken. It just needs UI improvements in the touch devices. Maemo is good, but having used the N95 8GB for a year before this, I can say that Symbian is very good too. They all have advantages and disadvantages. Maemo is more open and more powerful but has little apps. Symbian may be less powerful, but has the primary function of a phone and then a computer. Maemo is basically a computer with phone functions.

Supposed N8 features detailed.



KEY SELLING POINTS

Social Internet all in one view
· Be always up-to date what’s going on in your web communities: Social Phonebook combines OVI & 3rd Party Social networks all in one view
· Easy, one-step set up to connect your favorite social networking services
· Keep your friends close, independently where they are. Receive your friends’ status messages directly to your home screen. Comment immediately their activities
· Entertain yourself checking what they’re doing Share your own feelings and interests
· Discover new thoughts, content, links or places based on your friends activities and recommendations

World’s First HD Mobile Computer with 12MP Carl Zeiss optics
· Capture HD quality video with 720p resolution at 30 frames per second. Dedicated 2nd microphone for high quality audio on video recordings
· 12 megapixel AF camera with Carl Zeiss optics with xenon flash and mechanical shutter ensure sharp images even in low light conditions or fast moving objects
· Full screen 16:9 view finder for image and video capture. Easy adjusting of imaging parameters with on-screen settings
· Face recognition to ensure camera focusing to people and get best possible images
· Video editor software to manipulate the captured images and videos. Cut, paste and edit the shots. Compose videos and add music or narration right at the device.
· Share the images and videos you have captured directly to internet. Ovi Share and other major share services supported.
· HDMI cable connection to enables to share images and videos on compatible televisions and video projectors. Completely in digital 720p resolution video transfer.
· Dolby Digital Plus surround sound with compatible home theather systems. With up to 5.1 channels of premium-quality surround sound
True Personal Computer Like Experience
· Wide selection of device colors to find user’s own preference
· Up to 6, user customizable home screens to personalize with personally relevant applications & information
· Get new applications and widgets in Ovi Store: further enhance & personalize the device
· Free on-demand TV series and movies from leading global and local broadcasters.
· Top-of the line, high quality video entertainment, running on latest trend of ad-supported web tv.
· Mobile optimized, one-click access to broadcasters’ catalogs. Easy to find your own favorites.
· Increasing amount of new TV channels available thru Ovi Store.
· Open source widget for web TV available for broadcastes to start services easily and cost effectively
· Flash lite 4.0 support enabling usage of major web video services available in the internet
· Video playback time via HDMI to TV is up to 6.7 hours
· 3.5” AMOLED display with extraorinary brightness

KEY NEW UI FEATURES
· User customizable, multipage home screen with up to 6 pages· Harware accelerated UI transition effects· Pinch zoom feature in Photos, Browser and Maps· New UI optimized layuouts for landscape orientation

OTHER KEY APPLICATIONS & SERVICES
MAPS· Turn-by-turn voice guidance with spoken street names (TTS) for Drive & Walk service· Walk service offering dedicated Pedestrian Maps including stairs, pathways & tunnels · Adjustable speed limit Warner for Drive service· Find your places & routes fast: one box search with suggestions.· LifeCaster: Location update straight to Facebook status update · Wifi Positioning for fast & accurate positioning· Single-sign-on –same unique Nokia Account for the devices and Ovi Maps services e.g. LifeCaster and Favorites synchronizationMUSIC· Astonishing coverflow user interface for browsing of your music collection· DRM free Ovi Music store, easy to find & discover · Comes With Music service, millions of songs, yours to keep(varies market by market)· Music codecs MP3, AAC, eAAC, eAAC+, WMA, AMR-NB, AMR-WB· DRM support WM DRM, OMA DRM 2.0, Playready· Stereo FM radio (87.5-108MHz/76-90MHz),· FM transmitter VIDEO· Video codecs, playback/decoding : 720p 30fps: H.264, MPEG-4, VC-1, H.263 (CIF 30fps), Real Video 10 (QVGA 30fps), ON2 VP6 (VGA 30fps), Flash video (VGA 30fps)· Video codecs recording/encoding: 720p 30fps: H.264, MPEG-4, · Video streaming: D1 30fps: MPEG-4, H.264, VC-1, Real Video 10 (QVGA 15fps), 3gpOVI STORE· Download and purchase new applications · Home screen widgetsEMAIL & MESSAGING· Unified email client for multiple protocols: POP3/IMAP, Mail for Exchange, IBM Lotus traveler· HTML email support, supported attachments .doc, .xls, .ppt, . pdf, .zip· IM supporting: OVI Chat and with operator contract: Google GTalk, Yahoo! and Windows LiveGAMES· Dedicated graphics processor with accelerated OpenGL 2.0 to enable impressive 3D Games · Java gamesPC APPLICATION· Ovi Suite 2.2

TECHNICAL DATA
Dimensions
Volume: 86 cc
Weight: 135 g
Length: 113.5 mm
Width (max): 59 mm
Thickness (max) 12.9 mm
Key Hardware Characteristics
· Form factor: Touch screen monoblock· Protocols: WCDMA 850/900/1700/1900/2100 and GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900· Codecs: AMR, NB AMR, WB AMR, FR, EFR· Display: 3.5” OLED, capasitive touch screen, widescreen 16:9 nHD with (640*360 pixels) 16M colors, active area 43.2 mm x 76.8 mm · Processor speed: 680MHz· Connectors: HDMI, 3.5 mm AV connector, micro USB interface to PC, uSD slot, 2mm DC jack· USB 2.0 High Speed, USB OTG, USB charging· Memory: 256MB RAM, 512 ROM· User Memory: 140 MB internal after boot-up, 16GB eMMC, Hot swappable microSD up to 32GB· 12Mpix AF camera with Carl Zeiss Tessar f/2.8 28mm wide-angle optics. Xenon Flash, focal length 29 mm, 20x digital zoom camera · Physical keys: application key, power key, camera key, lock key, volume up & down· Input methods: Finger touch support for text input and UI control: ITU keypad, full keyboard. Chinese handwriting recognition. Possibility to use capasitive stylus· Stereo FM Radio· Hands free speaker: Boosted Class D mono speaker· Integrated GPS· 3D Entry Accelerometer· Proximity sensor
Radio Bearer Technologies
· HSDPA Cat9 10.2Mbps, HSUPA Cat5 2.0 Mbps· GPRS/EDGE class B, Multi Slot Class 33 (5 RX + 4 TX, Max Sum 6),· Bluetooth version 2.1 (DUN, OPP, FTP, HFP, GOEP, GAP, SPP, HSP, BIP, SAP, GAVDP, A2DP, AVRCP, PBAP)· WLAN IEEE802.11 b/g (China version WAPI)
Key Software Characteristics
· Operating system Symbian ^3 for Nokia devices · Java MIDP 2.1· QT4.6, Client Platform2.0, Common web runtime 2.0 , HTML 4.1 · Flash Lite 4.0· Firmware-over-the-air/internet (FOTA, FOTI)· OMA DM 1.2, OMA Client provisioning 1.1
Accessories
· Battery: BL-4D 1200mAh (inbox)· Chargers: Travel Charger AC-15 (inbox)· Music: Music headset WH-701 (inbox) · Connectivity cable CA-101 (inbox) · HDMI adapter CA-157 (inbox)· Micro USB OTG to USB adaptor CA-156 (inbox)· Capasitive stylus (only on selected markets)· Bluetooth wireless headsets BH-214, BH-505, BH-607, BH-905· Extra power DC-11· Univeral Mobile Holder CR-xx· Mini Speaker MD-9
Usage times
BL-4D Talk time2G/3G Standby 2G/3G Video record H.264 720p 30 fps Music playback Video playback H.264 720p 30fps
1200 mAh Up to 7.7/5.4h Up to 719/603h 3.2h Up to 60h 7.3h

Will Shareholders force Nokia away from Symbian?

Ultimately Nokia is owned by the shareholders.

Its stock is still being hammered and downgraded by analysts on Symbian concern.

I think there is a real possibility that if the stock drops another 30% from here, Nokia will be forced to dump symbian and fast track Meego or even buy palm or even Android. No matter what Symbian fan-boys think, the shareholders will force the managements hand.


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nok...?siteid=yhoof2

The thing is that Symbian that Nokia bought couple of years ago is now Symbian Foundation that got companies like Samsung, SE and Nokia. All of them making phones for S^3 and is more connected to Nokia future than MeeGo. It's part of the QT future of Nokia that will be first fulfilled by Harmattan/MeeGo in Q4 and Symbian^4 in Q1 2011.

S40 wont cut it on the mid and low end anymore because of Samsungs Bada. Remember that Symbians max priced devices for next year is 450 euros and is meant for low and mid end.
It's not about MeeGo vs Symbian. It's Symbian taking S40 place and MeeGo going for high end.

Trust me it's not first time i hear these analysts that know about 10% of what people here know as how these OS's really are connected to Nokia core. Buying WebOS would be throwing all the Trolltech and Symbian buying away and starting from start when non of the plans have not even seen yet. It wont happen, trust me.

Is this a slightly underclocked OMAP3630? If so, there is some gaming potential after all (especially compared to Android handsets). This CPU should easily be able to beat the crap out of our N900's OMAP3430.

If those specs are real it got.
• 3D Entry Accelerometer
• Battery: BL-4D 1200mAh (inbox)
• Dolby Digital Plus surround sound with compatible home theather systems. With up to 5.1 channels of premium-quality surround sound[
• 3D Entry Accelerometer
• Battery: BL-4D 1200mAh (inbox)
• Dolby Digital Plus surround sound with compatible home theather systems. With up to 5.1 channels of premium-quality surround sound

1200mah and quoted music player battery life is 60hrs...hmmm.

If this is true then this is yet another killer device. Dont count Nokia out. I remember they wer counted out in the flip-phone game. Dont forget the massive scale they have - went from 0% share in 09 to top share in 2010. BTW its good to see NOKIA throwing punches once again. They are simply the best by a distance no matter what the haters say/think.

Video store would be a great service with these specs IF implemented well