I said rarely, not never!

Some you never will... but for the rest: patience, listening and obvious action on our parts. Isn't that what worked for you?

I was many things when I arrived here... but I don't think 'unconstructive' or 'whiner' are anywhere close. 'Totally Ignorant', 'Stupid', 'Asking the most basic (and sometimes brainless) questions' and maybe even 'Over-enthusiastic' might just cover it. Along with 'Excessive poster'.

Come to think of it, I haven't change much, have I1

Kathy you have to know I was teasing you.

You think I didn't notice?

If people don't whine and complain, there will be no progress or improvements made.
It's part of human nature. We are never satisfied enough. It's a good thing really.

I'm sure you have gripes about the N900. It definitely has it's shortfalls. Some very big. No douting that. Constructive feedback or not, Nokia should listen to it all. Not every buyer is tech savvy. They shouldn't have to be to be able to enjoy the great web browser, multi-codec video player, built-in FM transmitter etc.

Nokia released a device. Which pretty much we ALL agree that it's not as robust and all around complete as some other current competitor devices. Even the OP said it's a mobile computer with cellphone capability. I say that to my friends also and I know what that implies. (It's not perfect, it's not for everyone, many won't like it)

If Nokia wants MORE people to stay with the Maemo and for a long time, it needs to be better and more accessible right from the start.

RIght now, if you don't come to the forums and know your way around computers, you only get to see and do about 20% of what N900 can do. (such as adding more repositories and getting access to about 400+ extra apps, using apt-get to get around failed installs or upgrades. manmually needing to edit files to even create your own folders in the launcher menu etc etc)

Heck, even the OVI store is BETA and it's been 3+ months since the N900 is released.

Anyways, even if I don't keep the N900 for a long time, my next phone will be a Maemo 6 device that's for certain.

I hope the next device is more complete.

I for one know i am here for the long haul , i have a 24 month contract on the phone !!!!

This board seems to me a fairly balanced placed , very helpful from what i have read , we need to stop it becoming too much one way or the other, like another board i was on recently where a phone named after a green tree growing fruit was treated like a GOD, and anyone who had problems was obviously mentally challenged..

My guess from what i have seen ( i work in the phone industry ) is people either don't know the device , the os (like me) or think it will be instantly capable of everything ..

just my 2p, i'll shut the door on my way out lol

James

Progress comes from constructive criticism, not abject whining.

I agree with the OP.. Women are evil! >:-)

hahah.. I kid, I kid..

The most interesting thing in this thread so far for me is conversation between Texrat and RevdKathy.