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2009-11-01
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Yes it would, but then it wouldn't find anything thus wasting your time. =P
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
This, and the rest of your long argumentation is based on the wrong assumption that VLC is a stand-alone media player.
You can capture streams with UNIX pipes, MPlayer, and 101 dvb utilities.
You don't want 10 video players because fragmentation is a Bad Thing. Even _if_ you're OK with that, you don't want too much double/triple work. Which is why you want a modular design.
Which is precisely the problem with everything in one monolithic application: 1) bloat 2) others cannot reuse 3) when you don't want to use that application you're fscked.
VLC is a media playback and streaming library and a set of user interfaces (Qt4, Cocoa, HTTP, ncurses and CLI). Whether you use the built-in user interface or just the library with another front-end is up to you - VLC has some GTK front-ends by the way (I never tried them so don't ask me more).
Some years ago, gstreamer guys decided to invent a forth major OSS media framework (in addition to Xine-lib, ffmpeg and LibVLC) instead of improving any of the existing ones. I can see several reasons why they chose that path: First, it's always easier to start a new project with your own code than to learn to extend an existing one. Second, gstreamer is LGPL, which allows proprietary codecs Third, some people want to use glib and gobject. Forth, I guess gstreamer might be more generic, e.g. Farsight supports real-time communications, which is in fact quite different a thing than media playback.
That's all fine, but please don't blame VLC for being not modular. This only exhibits that you don't know what you're talking about. (By the way, over 80% of VLC is code is in modules, or if you count underlying libraries, probably well over 90%...)
Originally Posted by allnameswereout
As far as I know, it's just MPEG-TS over RTP, which is perfectly standard.
As for the set top boxes in France by Free: either its proprietary crap or it uses an open protocol which means other media players also can read (and hence capture) from it.
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2009-11-02
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Originally Posted by nMIK-3
Beware that you are quoting the VLC 1.1.0 changelog here. VLC 1.0.3 does not work on N900 or not well at all.
VLC Player 1.0.3 is about to debut and I spotted the following quote at the official change log:
Looks like VLC Player one of the world's most popular video players is officially coming to Maemo 5!
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2009-11-02
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(Just so you know, redenisc is the main Maemo VLC developer)
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2009-11-02
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#65
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Originally Posted by f(x)
Which anime is that? I think I've watched that one recently but I can't recall the title.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-11-02
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Originally Posted by redenisc
So the soon to be released VLC revision is not going to work well with the N900 and the original post is incorrect?
Beware that you are quoting the VLC 1.1.0 changelog here. VLC 1.0.3 does not work on N900 or not well at all.
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2009-11-02
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Originally Posted by f(x)
That's hardly comparable, first of all it's on Vista and secondly I guess it's on a desktop (?) with dual core processor (?)
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
Ever heard of this thing called a "filename"
Which anime is that? I think I've watched that one recently but I can't recall the title.
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Ah, hehe didn't know why I didn't think about it. Guess I haven't watched that anime yet then.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-11-02
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Originally Posted by joppu
1- Win7 & vlc will work the same under Linux (if you want a screen-shot/I will provide it to you)
That's hardly comparable, first of all it's on Vista[1] and secondly I guess it's on a desktop (?) with dual core processor[2] (?)
Ever heard of this thing called a "filename"
2- It doesn't mean anything I just set vlc to work only on one processor and I couldn't notice any change in performance.
@Laughing Man: I don't know this anime ,but I also saw many pictures of it (avatars? / signatures?). The only thing I did was searching for its file-name ["Toradora"].
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You all might think that I'm a fanatic VLC hater, but let me tell you a story. I first attempted to use VLC a long time ago, it was pre 1.0 version. First thing was that the ***/SSA (styled subtitles) support was horrible. Secondly there was noticeable delay when pausing and pausing also caused the current subtitles disappear. The image scaling was horrible and VLC added some sort of light blur to anything. And the random artifact hell that also occurs after seeking, Well, I uninstalled it almost instantly.
Well then, some time ago they released the 1.0 version that was supposed to be "stable" or "feature complete" version as seen on the version number. Well, I'm delighted to say, that atleast they tried and the ***/SSA support is decent. Their brand new and revolutionary instant pause
-feature doesn't work correctly and there is still the delay but this time only in audio. I mean seriously, this thing has been in development in 8 years now and the still don't have proper pause in a media player! Well, the "corrupt image" but still occurs regardless of the file. Well atleast I gave it another chance but I'm still not impressed. Perhaps this VLC thing is for the same people that think Internet Explorer is a good browser because they don't know of better...
****ing censors, A S S is "Advanced SubStation Alpha".
I'll install it on my N900 and I perhaps even might use it if it plays every file flawlessly
2. Are you saying that it's the same thing as 1.6Ghz VIA C-7M?
Last edited by joppu; 2009-11-02 at 18:39.
Well then, some time ago they released the 1.0 version that was supposed to be "stable" or "feature complete" version as seen on the version number. Well, I'm delighted to say, that atleast they tried and the ***/SSA support is decent. Their brand new and revolutionary instant pause
-feature doesn't work correctly and there is still the delay but this time only in audio. I mean seriously, this thing has been in development in 8 years now and the still don't have proper pause in a media player! Well, the "corrupt image" but still occurs regardless of the file. Well atleast I gave it another chance but I'm still not impressed. Perhaps this VLC thing is for the same people that think Internet Explorer is a good browser because they don't know of better...****ing censors, A S S is "Advanced SubStation Alpha".
I'll install it on my N900 and I perhaps even might use it if it plays every file flawlessly
Originally Posted by f(x)
1. No need.
1- Win7 & vlc will work the same under Linux (if you want a screen-shot/I will provide it to you)
2- It doesn't mean anything I just set vlc to work only on one processor and I couldn't notice any change in performance.
2. Are you saying that it's the same thing as 1.6Ghz VIA C-7M?
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