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2009-11-01
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@joppu
How much did Anti-VLC LTD paid you?
if you hate vlc that much then just skip it, no one is forcing you. Also, did you tried to run it few times or you only tried to screw VLC?
It seems you just fast forward it + taken the screenshot without given it any time (To breath)
How much did Anti-VLC LTD paid you?
if you hate vlc that much then just skip it, no one is forcing you. Also, did you tried to run it few times or you only tried to screw VLC?
It seems you just fast forward it + taken the screenshot without given it any time (To breath)
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2009-11-01
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Originally Posted by daperl
I stated several reasons with that being one of them, yes.
You were asking developers to be modular because of limited resources
but you argue that it's not reasonable for manufacturers to do the same. I consider that a contradiction, and your reasons seem to be just rationalizations.
It is only a contradiction if you refuse to take the different situation into account.This comment has more to do with planned obsolescence and less to do with modularity. More to my point about contradiction. With your reasoning, wouldn't it be more in a software developer's interest to share fewer libraries with other software?
They could then force the user, because of limited resources, to have fewer choices, which appears to be your agenda anyway.
I think I'm gonna fork gstreamer to daperlstreamer...
And I really don't want to go back to 90s having QuickTime, Windows Media Player, RealPlayer, and such installed so I can play some stupi format only supported by these players... so we provide our codecs via multimedia framework to whatever application supports our API. That there is a different multimedia framework for KDE than for GNOME is not a huge problem.
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2009-11-01
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Originally Posted by f(x)
Nah it happens to me too, it's generally a poorly encoded file when you see that. Nothing seems to play it, delete and find it somewhere else.
@joppu
How much did Anti-VLC LTD paid you?
if you hate vlc that much then just skip it, no one is forcing you. Also, did you tried to run it few times or you only tried to screw VLC?
It seems you just fast forward it + taken the screenshot without given it any time (To breath)
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They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-11-01
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
Well, in this case its MKV. Also notice the double subtitle.
@joppu
I've had that issue myself occasionally. Seems to happen to whatever other players (including mplayer) that I throw the file into. Oh well, at least VLC will play it rather then just show you black space like Totem lol.
Totem would tell you about a plugin available to download to play the content. A rather nice and useful feature IMO.
I think in latest Ubuntu version you even can buy Fluendo codec packs directly from Ubuntu.
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2009-11-01
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
Anyway, I found that file (I am kinda downloading it) would take more than 12hours to get it done (I Just want to make sure).
Nah it happens to me too, it's generally a poorly encoded file when you see that. Nothing seems to play it, delete and find it somewhere else.
By the way, this reminds me that I only get it with .mov format (for obvious reasons).
For now can we all stop fighting about VLC/MPlayer/Others and GUI/None-GUI + QT/GTK.
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2009-11-01
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Unless you're developing for those players you cannot judge their usefulness. It's like claiming that Qt isn't needed because there is GTK. Not all applications are developed the same way and not all applications have the same kind of code. Mplayer for example cannot be easily extended to handle menus because of the way it is programmed, so forget proper DVD playback on Mplayer. VLC on the other hand works great with menus but may be slower than mplayer. As you can see you win something - you lose something.
What is the point of 9458515155159 media players? Get me one which is good, which provides a good interface. I don't care about the name. VLC is Qt on Linux desktop, hence I don't use it on my GNOME desktop. Totem works great, and uses Gstreamer. Unless VLC has a good UI its just another media player for Maemo. Which is unfortunate.
For some, it is better to (let's say) write another media player just to fix this kind of problems. For others it is better to have more than one players because of their license (OK, both mplayer and vlc are GPLv2+). It is even possible to need more than one players just to handle different development models.
Unless you are able to predict which development model, code organization, community behavior, etc will prevail, you cannot judge. And as long as you're a simple user of those players (just like I am), you may (at-most) use them. If you start writing code for one of them then you can try to unite all of them under a universal player that will be everything, but I doubt that this is possible.
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2009-11-01
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Notice that the file wasn't like that all the time, that's just a really annoying bug that happens randomly and also when you rewind the file. It's probably due to a weak processor (laptop, VIA C7-M, 1600MHz) (also note that the N900 has max. 600MHz clockspeed) and h.264 decoding that takes a lot of CPU time. Surprisingly MPlayer plays the file flawlessly
Last edited by joppu; 2009-11-01 at 18:17.
Originally Posted by v13
Atleast SMPlayer has proper DVD menus if you enable them in the menu.
Mplayer for example cannot be easily extended to handle menus because of the way it is programmed, so forget proper DVD playback on Mplayer.
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2009-11-01
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Originally Posted by v13
If only developers are entitled to an opinion about the usefulness of their software then why do developers like it when users provide feedback, find bugs, port software, review software, use their software, donate to project, write translations,
Unless you're developing for those players you cannot judge their usefulness.
It's like claiming that Qt isn't needed because there is GTK.
Not all applications are developed the same way and not all applications have the same kind of code. Mplayer for example cannot be easily extended to handle menus because of the way it is programmed, so forget proper DVD playback on Mplayer. VLC on the other hand works great with menus but may be slower than mplayer. As you can see you win something - you lose something.
For some, it is better to (let's say) write another media player just to fix this kind of problems. For others it is better to have more than one players because of their license (OK, both mplayer and vlc are GPLv2+). It is even possible to need more than one players just to handle different development models.
Unless you are able to predict which development model, code organization, community behavior, etc will prevail, you cannot judge. And as long as you're a simple user of those players (just like I am), you may (at-most) use them. If you start writing code for one of them then you can try to unite all of them under a universal player that will be everything, but I doubt that this is possible.
It is rather easy to predict what is desired: a touch UI player which plays the multimedia content the user stumbles upon. The rest is pub talk for men with beards who have stories about ASM coding, but are otherwise irrelevant.
For end users its great to have APT repositories with useful applications. Touch UI applications. Instead of 53985092852 which mimic one another, or all kind of CLI applications, or all kind of stylus applications. This problem has different root though.
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I've had that issue myself occasionally. Seems to happen to whatever other players (including mplayer) that I throw the file into. Oh well, at least VLC will play it rather then just show you black space like Totem lol.