Reply
Thread Tools
GeneralAntilles's Avatar
Posts: 5,478 | Thanked: 5,222 times | Joined on Jan 2006 @ St. Petersburg, FL
#141
Originally Posted by Benson View Post
The point, I think, and one I'm mildly concerned about, is not about connection type, but about poor offline function. The assumption of ubiquitous connectivity can lead to sloppiness, such as bailing on lack of connection, rather than falling back on cache or local resources.
Well that's a different issue, and one that I'm not entirely certain about myself.

Originally Posted by Benson View Post
Why, indeed. Might ask ZeroJay about how Canada+Discount codes=Hilarity.
It worked fine for the rest of the Canadian discount code recipients.

Originally Posted by Benson View Post
No-hardware-keys FUD? (Which does concern me deeply, just not for the RX-51, or probably any Fremantle-era device.)
What do hardware keys have to do with desktop-application functionality? As far as I know, most of them don't strictly require a keyboard, and certainly not a dpad.
__________________
Ryan Abel
 
fragos's Avatar
Posts: 900 | Thanked: 273 times | Joined on Aug 2008 @ Fresno CA USA
#142
Some applications benefit greatly from a minimal set of funtion keys. Do you for example wish to give up screen real estate in the browser. How about not having a key to be used as a shutter release or when a bit of command line work is required. Each type of input facility has a value. I think some of the concern is based on the posibilty that ssyetm function and usability will be lost by arificialy limiting controls so that the marketing department can make a big deal out of touch. The original Mac had no function keys -- they all do now. How about loosing the facility of right click so some fool can brag on the simplicity of a one button mouse. I use the mouse as an example not because we need one on a handheld tablet.
__________________
George Fragos
Internet Coach & Writer
Maemo Mapper HowTo
Personal Blog -- 3 Joe's Blog


N810 -- 5.2010.33-1
 
GeneralAntilles's Avatar
Posts: 5,478 | Thanked: 5,222 times | Joined on Jan 2006 @ St. Petersburg, FL
#143
Originally Posted by fragos View Post
Some applications benefit greatly from a minimal set of funtion keys.
I'm not arguing for or against hardware buttons.

I'm simply addressing the argument that fewer hardware buttons would make it impossible for desktop applications to be run on the tablet.
__________________
Ryan Abel
 
qole's Avatar
Moderator | Posts: 7,109 | Thanked: 8,820 times | Joined on Oct 2007 @ Vancouver, BC, Canada
#144
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Well that's a different issue, and one that I'm not entirely certain about myself.
That's actually the part that worried me...

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
It worked fine for the rest of the Canadian discount code recipients.
...such as whom?
__________________
qole.org --- twitter --- Easy Debian wiki page
Please don't send me a private message, post to the appropriate thread.
Thank you all for your donations!
 
Posts: 631 | Thanked: 1,123 times | Joined on Sep 2005 @ Helsinki
#145
Originally Posted by fragos View Post
Some applications benefit greatly from a minimal set of funtion keys. Do you for example wish to give up screen real estate in the browser. How about not having a key to be used as a shutter release or when a bit of command line work is required. Each type of input facility has a value. I think some of the concern is based on the posibilty that ssyetm function and usability will be lost by arificialy limiting controls so that the marketing department can make a big deal out of touch. The original Mac had no function keys -- they all do now. How about loosing the facility of right click so some fool can brag on the simplicity of a one button mouse. I use the mouse as an example not because we need one on a handheld tablet.
Yes, hard keys are very good in certain cases.

Rest assured, the Maemo UI and usability team is not controlled by the Nokia marketing department. We're doing work to improve usability and functionality. That is the key goal.
 

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ragnar For This Useful Post:
qgil's Avatar
Posts: 3,105 | Thanked: 11,088 times | Joined on Jul 2007 @ Mountain View (CA, USA)
#146
Originally Posted by ragnar View Post
Rest assured, the Maemo UI and usability team is not controlled by the Nokia marketing department. We're doing work to improve usability and functionality. That is the key goal.
Also, rest assured the marketing team doesn't have wet dreams about unusable and disfunctional products either.
 

The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to qgil For This Useful Post:
EIPI's Avatar
Posts: 794 | Thanked: 784 times | Joined on Sep 2007 @ /Canada/Ontario/GTA
#147
Originally Posted by qole View Post
...such as whom?
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...+codes&page=39

There are a few canucks (mikemorrison, TenSpeed) on this page that appear to have their discount codes work the last time around...
__________________
Mobile Tablets Blog
Follow me on
Twitter

 

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to EIPI For This Useful Post:
daperl's Avatar
Posts: 2,427 | Thanked: 2,986 times | Joined on Dec 2007
#148
The Storm Before The Calm

I found myself in an all too familiar place: Ready to implement my functionality, but instead taking a detour because of some non-standard system integration. Conventional wisdom dictates not to stray at times like these, but I knew my enthusiasm was going to suffer if I didn't take care of this now.

After the Maemo tutorial disappointment, it was time to see what the community had been up to. Sure enough, the Advanced Backlight (AB) project was in a mature state, and at first glance it seemed that they had already solved my problem. Whew!...Saved!...Not! It so happened that AB was frustratingly stuck exactly where I was; they had been for months. And where was Nokia in all this? Not to be found.

One bright side was that I didn't know GTK, and based upon its growth rate and installed base, now seemed like a good time to learn it. The dark side of course was that I was getting further and further away from where I really wanted to be. But maybe I would enjoy the ride? Or maybe the solution would come to me from a Google search? I didn't and it wouldn't. About 10 long, dead-end days passed. I was burnt and ready to throw in the towel. But just as I was packing up my things, Murphy decided to take a vacation...
__________________
N9: Go white or go home
 

The Following User Says Thank You to daperl For This Useful Post:
Posts: 5,335 | Thanked: 8,187 times | Joined on Mar 2007 @ Pennsylvania, USA
#149
Originally Posted by daperl View Post
The Storm Before The Calm
Does anyone else visualize daperl as the protagonist in a film noir as they read this?
__________________
maemo.org profile
 
fpp's Avatar
Posts: 2,853 | Thanked: 968 times | Joined on Nov 2005
#150
...or in a Philip K. Dick alternate timeline story...
 
Reply

Tags
fremantle, iphone killer, n900, rover, rx-51


 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 19:35.