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I dig up this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70082 about kernel-2.6.37, but didn't fully understand is that (="meego-kernel") booted and used with other Maemo5 components. And why kernel-power is (still) based on 2.6.28?


I'm also thinking what are the reasons today to not use (let say) kernel 3.8-rc3 (2013-01-10) on Maemo5/N900?
 

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Originally Posted by AapoRantalainen View Post
I dig up this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70082 about kernel-2.6.37, but didn't fully understand is that (="meego-kernel") booted and used with other Maemo5 components. And why kernel-power is (still) based on 2.6.28?


I'm also thinking what are the reasons today to not use (let say) kernel 3.8-rc3 (2013-01-10) on Maemo5/N900?
SGX driver?
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thank you, while uninstalling it showed some error so i manually downloaded those debs and installed, thank for reply
 
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Originally Posted by AapoRantalainen View Post
I'm also thinking what are the reasons today to not use (let say) kernel 3.8-rc3 (2013-01-10) on Maemo5/N900?
* maemo specified kernel interfaces
* missing kernel drivers
* changed interface of kernel <--> userpace drivers
* worse power management in some parts
 

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* worse power management in some parts
Or better said "missing"
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@freemangordon, @pali: If you think I'm nagging we can stop this, I'm not targeting your ignore-list

Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
SGX driver?
This is not mandatory. No doubt it is cool to have 3D. And there are little bit ironing left on non-3D hildon-desktop. And [/optimist] couple of years and we will have open source SGX: http://powervr.gnu.org.ve/doku.php [/optimist]

Originally Posted by pali View Post
* maemo specified kernel interfaces
* changed interface of kernel <--> userpace drivers
Is there more info about this topic than:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=37
Seems there are work to do, but which is show-stopper?

Originally Posted by pali View Post
* missing kernel drivers
Seems much of them are merged to the mainline: http://elektranox.org/n900/kernel/status.html
What is still show-stopper?

Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
Originally Posted by pali View Post
* worse power management in some parts
Or better said "missing"
Why is this? Is newer kernel written poorly?
 

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for sgx, is N9 Meego build feasible if appropriate userland (glibc etc) are available?
 

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@AapoRantalainen - my ignore list ? Why is that

If we want to make a progress, not regress, there should be 3D acceleration. IMO.

The point is that without drastically modifying the vanilla, we'll hit newer sysfs interfaces, closed parts in fremantle and whatnot.

I wonder what exactly benefit do you expect from 3.8 on n900?

See, don't get me wrong, I'd love fremantle with 3.8. AFAIK I am the only one so far who has successfully booted fremantle with 3.5(including working SGX driver). But I did it just as a POC as I really don't see the benefit.

BTW you may wan't to join #maemo-alternatives on freenode, Skry and co are doing wonders there

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Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
AFAIK I am the only one so far who has successfully booted fremantle with 3.5(including working SGX driver).]
This is pretty impressive!

Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
The point is that without drastically modifying the vanilla, we'll hit newer sysfs interfaces, closed parts in fremantle and whatnot.
I'm not hacked enough kernel to really measure how much there would be work. But reimplementing closed source parts would be good thing anyway.

Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
I wonder what exactly benefit do you expect from 3.8 on n900?
*every time feature is backported it is proof that we should have newer kernel
*rumours that ARM is more supported [e.g. http://www.linaro.org/linaro-blog/20...l-upstreaming/]
*Just to keep maemo up-to-date (but maybe kernel is not top priority)
 

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I updated deb packages of kernel-power pre v52 from my git. When autobuilder start working again I will push this final version to extras-devel.
 

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