Sorry, I don't quite understand this, but I need to ask.

Is RIM the only company making future "QT" Hardware?

Will Nokia or anyone else make hardaware that uses QT?

Not trying to start a flame war, I'm really just curious.

Nokia will make 'dumbphones' in future that has qt. Should be out during this year.

related qt5 thread :
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...&highlight=qt5

http://qt-project.org/wiki/Categoryevices

There is also this one:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81945

Thanks for the reply, however I'm more interested in the hardware. If you have the best Development software in the world and no one is using it then...well you understand the rest.

Tomi Ahonen on his blogspam would make you think that qt and ovi store were cutting edge in "best Development software in the world", while his love for meego is nice, his ******** rants aren't. Every app in ovi needed to be tested vs tens of handsets, programists 'love' that, especially once you go commercial provide support for tens of handsets. iPhone with its dumphone introduced homogenous approach which clearly won. No more worrying about different memory/screen resolution/etc. While it kills competition, it is making dev story short, works on one phone pretty much guaranteed it will on others. Strength of Nokia from 2005ish became its worst enemy, we have 20 different phones + people buy them = so much work for devs it is hardly worth in the end. MS WP idea of standardising (3 buttons etc) was a move towards this. In the long term it could work out. Keeping 3 different OSes (with v3, v5, Anna/belle... and that is just for one of them, expect maemo users whining about meego apps being unavailable, oh wait it is already happening) was just a mess in app-system that discouraged developers. WP, however bad it is, lacks this problem at least

Yes but the ovi experience is stil waaaaaay better than the android one developer-wise. A 3997 differerent android devices do not seem to kill Android. The single specced WP7 devices aren't thriving on the other hand.

Worst WP7 2012 ~200€
256mb ram, 8gb, 5mp, 3.5" 800x480, 1ghz, gps, fm
1st gen WP7 200€ May 2011 vodafone store
512mb ram, 16gb, 5mp, 800x480 LCD 3.8", 1ghz, gps, fm
Flagship WP7 2012 560€ vodafone store
512mb ram, 16gb, 8mp, 800x480 amoled 3.7 (900 hasn't arrived yet but 4.3 if you like), 1.4ghz, gps, fm

Which sane person would upgrade? In the same period, with the same price relationship we have

samsung galaxy S 250€
1ghz, 512 ram, 8gb, 5mp, 800x480 amoled 4", gps, fm

samsung galaxy note 599€
2*1.4ghz, 1gb ram, 8mp, 1280x800 amoled 5.3", gps/glonass, fm, gyro

Wasn't talking about droid, but why not, will gladly listen. Did you ever have dropdown list with android devices compatible with such and such prog in google marketplace (play whatever)? Had one symbian nokia hated it because 80% of apps I was interested in lacked myhandset in it. So while you could sum up all apps from 3310 to claim numbers, average user had the experience of only handful of those being kept up to date with newer handsets. Thousands/millions of apps in the marketplace mean nothing if you end up being able to dl/buy only a small percentage of them for you current hw

The fact there's only been mostly one Maemo or MeeGo device released at a time - overlap for the N800/N810 and the (not publicly released) N950 and N9 - is the same scenario at the core of the problem(s) as WP7 and iOS, a lack of real options.

The fact that Android still suffers from lag (not at a vanilla AOSP level though) when Samsung puts their TouchWiz UI on top of Android shows me that optimization has not been a priority for those manufacturers - just through another core, add another 512mb of RAM or fracture your own platform and sell a quad-core with 1gb of RAM in Europe, settle for a different dual-core in the North American market but same amount of RAM, or up the RAM to 2gb and sell that in Japan... and offer absolutely no rhyme or reason.

Fragmentation talk has been going on for a couple of years around Android, it's finally starting to take its toll. Do I think things could be better? Hell yes. But then looking at Qt based offers, I'm not sure that even resolves a damn thing. It's just potentially another release/platform that will not be optimized, be back-ported (as the case with Diablo) or require hardware to make it shine.

My point though; Harmattan was a one-off on just the N9 (public releases people, remember). Fremantle - another one-off with the N900. WP7 - a one-off in regards to the hardware. And they all are disappointing in either support, experience, apps or acceptance.

Android is all over. iOS is controlled and sealed off. The middle needs to be found and cultivated.

It hasn't happened yet.

And about all of this "it doesn't do proper multi-tasking" talk yet, seriously... that's not a selling point. Neither are the hyperbole of "fart apps" either. People want productivity - selling the Playbook without an e-mail/PIM basically doomed that product from the start - and people want an easier UI/UX, that's what iOS brought to the table in 2007, that's what TouchWiz and Sense bring to the Android stable (while fragmenting the hell out of that sector) and that's what Harmattan did but didn't get the marketing or funding it sorely needed.

Let's see what BB10 and Tizen bring to the table. Qt... meh. Let's see if it helps or hurts. So far, it's just a way to get things done.

True, but on the other hand I dl'd apps from market that were unusable due to weird resolution. (distorted, or elements off screen).

Would I prefer not having the ability to download at all? As a user, no, after all I have extras-devel enabled on my N900 but as a developer I'd hate getting a one star rating because the guy just had a 270x647 device I'd never had the chance to test on. And many other users, especially those coming from iGarden would not like to download a half working app.

Now that I think about it, if I had paid for the app, I wouldn't like it as a user either.