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I think that perhaps I am not being fully understood in what I have been suggesting for the necessary survival of maemo itself.

I am not suggesting maemo os to be ported to yet another handheld device or handheld device line that will ultimately hit the wall of obsolescence.
That really defeats the time and effort put in...especially by the law of diminishing returns from losing the people every passing year who are needed to effect such porting .

Opening up maemo is a grand project also...
But still...
I see the inevitable on the horizon.

Likewise ...when I mentioned getting maemo onto 86_64
32 or 64 bit...as a proper distro ...
Even the suggestion of simply taking bloody debian and making (or tweaking) a de and wm to give debian the appearance of maemo....

The first response was linear...and essentially it was..
"what good would 86_64 be with intel and only a couple of intel smartphones...?"

I think getting off the road...getting out of the one way lane to extinction is the answer.
we have been thinking as a community so narrowly for so long that it now jeopardizes maemo's continued existence...

I rather am speaking of making maemo a proper distro .
Period.
End of statement.
Get off the roller coaster to handheld oblivion.
Full stop.

Once a proper linux distribution ....
A- we aren't stuck on a one way lane to oblivion with a specific device or specific device line...like we are and have been now with the nxx0 line.

B- basing it on either debian or ubuntu we then have piles of current and maintained software of either debian or ubuntu at our disposal

C- we should also (as a consequence of "B" )...be able to more easily keep the distro updated and maintained.

D- We should also (as a consequence of "B" ) find ourselves with a larger pool of endusers and interested developers...who have no problem installing maemo onto their pc's ...(instead of the current situation where many couldn't be bothered with the hassle or ...the ever increasing reason...needing to find antiquated devices ..second hand ...if they are lucky ..)

E- Out of the handheld loop ...being an official distro provides us with breathing room...time to find compatible handheld devices...
We can hold out for however long is necessary...


IF we do nothing ..
or
IF we sit and wait for the right device...
or
IF we do our finest to warp maemo to fit a different handheld ...
or
IF maemo currently ...as a community....which quite obviously ...barely has the manpower to effect this leap to the next device ..and even manages to succeed ...and makes it...

if we run along this tangent and succeed ...
with any of these mentioned "IFs" ....

we are screwed .
the next device will be the last for maemo.
Full stop.

We won't have the numbers or the manpower to make it any further after that...
We won't have the numbers to maintain ...
We won't have the numbers to develop ...
Not with our numbers now and the projected losses after migration...

Some may balk at the idea of maemo on pc , laptop or laptop convertible ...
But after farting around with earlier work of moises ...
farting around with earlier work with maemo4 ...
and farting around even with VNC-ing maemo and my convertible m780...
(all of which just feels like a larger more readable screened version which performs quite well with stylus and finger ...surprisingly...)

Many may think different about what the end usage may feel like if they gave it a go...

Of course you couldn't put it in your pocket...
Of course you can't just give someone a call...

I consider this inconvenience for the continued survival of the os temporary.... until proper handhelds make themselves available to port back to. ...
And EVEN then...
JUST in case...we run into the same issue again..
At least we avoid out-and-out extinction and continue on.

If folks can't bend ..
If factors like this are "make-it-or-break-it " ...for the majority...
Then flat out... maemo is going to perish..
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