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Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
I am not suggesting maemo os to be ported to yet another handheld device or handheld device line that will ultimately hit the wall of obsolescence.

Opening up maemo is a grand project also...
But still...
I see the inevitable on the horizon.

Likewise ...when I mentioned getting maemo onto 86_64
32 or 64 bit...as a proper distro ...

The first response was linear...and essentially it was..
"what good would 86_64 be with intel and only a couple of intel smartphones...?"

we have been thinking as a community so narrowly for so long that it now jeopardizes maemo's continued existence...

I rather am speaking of making maemo a proper distro . Get off the roller coaster to handheld oblivion.

Once a proper linux distribution ....
A- we aren't stuck on a one way lane to oblivion with a specific device or specific device line...like we are and have been now with the nxx0 line.

B- basing it on either debian or ubuntu we then have piles of current and maintained software of either debian or ubuntu at our disposal

C- we should also (as a consequence of "B" )...be able to more easily keep the distro updated and maintained.

D- We should also (as a consequence of "B" ) find ourselves with a larger pool of endusers and interested developers...who have no problem installing maemo onto their pc's ...(instead of the current situation where many couldn't be bothered with the hassle or ...the ever increasing reason...needing to find antiquated devices ..second hand ...if they are lucky ..)

E- Out of the handheld loop ...being an official distro provides us with breathing room...time to find compatible handheld devices...
We can hold out for however long is necessary...

IF we do nothing ..
or
IF we sit and wait for the right device...
or
IF we do our finest to warp maemo to fit a different handheld ...
or
IF maemo currently ...as a community....which quite obviously ...barely has the manpower to effect this leap to the next device ..and even manages to succeed ...and makes it...

if we run along this tangent and succeed ...
with any of these mentioned "IFs" ....

we are screwed .
the next device will be the last for maemo.
Full stop.

We won't have the numbers or the manpower to make it any further after that...

Some may balk at the idea of maemo on pc , laptop or laptop convertible ...
But after farting around with earlier work of moises ...
farting around with earlier work with maemo4 ...
and farting around even with VNC-ing maemo and my convertible m780...
(all of which just feels like a larger more readable screened version which performs quite well with stylus and finger ...surprisingly...)

Many may think different about what the end usage may feel like if they gave it a go...

Of course you couldn't put it in your pocket...
Of course you can't just give someone a call...

I consider this inconvenience for the continued survival of the os temporary.... until proper handhelds make themselves available to port back to. ...
At least we avoid out-and-out extinction and continue on.
Devuan, not debian (if only because systemd is too bloated for embedded devices). FPTF is already doing it; feel free to look into it, and see if you can run it on one of your computers. And yes, I see your point: too many people use handhelds (like iPhone or something) which are difficult to port to (if only because of variety of these handhelds; very fragmented market), sometimes because of manufacturer building-in locked boot-loader or something.

In regards to making Maemo more mainstream and less restricted to one-or-so handheld only... Raspberry Pi could be an interesting porting target, still ARM (like N900, Neo900 and others), but known to a very wide community.

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If you want a larger, more user-friendly, less-tinkering-required device... DragonBox Pyra is a good device, too, ARM and keyboard and display and touchscreen. Just, a tad too large for being a mobile phone.
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