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Ok...
so here's how it sits.
1st- the rundown of what I have got here at exactly this moment.
2nd- the great news ..
3rd- the "meh"...-not-terribly-exceptionally-great-news .

No really bad news. -which is good news

1st- the rundown : what we got (and more is being added).

I thought I'd tackle the snarly, tangled, half-lost, other-half hard-to-find nightmare of all the environments to work in for diablo 4.1.2 for the n800 and n810. consequently there just isn't enough beer to make the brain-pain go away (and after so long from doing even half this stuff....and now seeing how awkward and difficult it is to find alot of this older stuff now...I see now that this task I set myself ...I realize it is preservation as much as anything)

-LMDE2Betsy 32bit jessie rolling release..with a good loongggg projected lifespan...
for pre-set-up click-and-go dive-head-long-into..
diablo 4.1.2 development.
-Installed and functioning fine is:
the complete diablo 4.1.2 scratchbox development environment and sdk pristine..fresh...untouched..ready to just start and go.
-Esbox
-Pluthon
-Mica
-pydev
-and more goodies being added over the next bit.


2nd-the great news...

everything is fine....just ducky.
the beauty of it is..it's on the latest debian (almost fully) jessie rolling release. Easily updatable (now subtle disclaimer here: I made sure the entirety of the system was updated completely before starting all this joy-joy...it will be completely up to you to update whatever you wish and make or break whatever..so I'd suggest heeding the following advice a little further down * ...)
-No virtualbox vm here ...No Ubuntu "Antiquated Aardvark" or "Mummified Moose" ...
nothing so outdated you need more overhead and stress on you brain or comp. system...
-Everything is on the system.
Some may figure that "uh-oh" ..what if something goes wrong?
which can easily happen...and you've overcooked ..whatever and something breaks?
* Not to worry...love "Systemback"...which is installed as well btw.
1-click and just flip back to an earlier snapshot you took.. and in a couple seconds "bam" you're whole system is back to exactly where you were before things went loopy and you pressed/ deleted/ changed/ installed "whatever" . Not good enough? Systemback will clone the whole system to wherever you want ..so you could make back up copies 1-click easily as well..(which I suggest anyway).

(There is a ton more great news but I am getting tired after yet another day of this..I'm sure in my sleep I'll remember more stuff I should have said here.)
This is the one-stop click-and-go for diablo 4.1.2 development..
on a virtualbox vm free up to date system...
It's almost completed.. I just want to get the last bits on..
Same kinda setup is going to be for Fremantle(n900) and Bora(770)..
This is essentially as noob-friendly as it is ever going to get...past people doing the actually development FOR the new person.
There won't ever be a reason any longer why someone can't study and develop...because they couldn't figure out the "Some (insane and maddening) Assembly Required" instructions...or simply just get exhausted and exasperated at the process and give up.


So here it comes...

3rd- the "meh" -not so fabulous great news....

I knew it was going to be hefty in size...and I originally wanted devel. environ. and tools for the 770, 8x0, and 900 all in one distro.
but to avoid problems and conflicts and size (and I ran into enough probs having it all on one distro...) I split them up into 3 distros. the login for this one is betsyd32 - the "d" standing for diablo just as the latest betsyf32 is for fremantle and betsyb32 is for Bora (for the hacker 2007 ed.) all the passwords are betsy. Scratch login is ..what is the word...(bloody-hell I'm tired)..."standard factory settings" ?
I'm almost done betsyd32...
betsyf32 has a bit more left to do..
and I have a small ways to go on betsyb32...

So as far as size goes (and I still don't find that problematic..)
the entirety of the distro is at around 18gb so far...
I don't expect ...for all the diablo tools and devel. environs ..to take more than 25 gb in total by the time I'm finished. There were just sooo many tools, plugins and environments created for the n8x0...

I'm not expecting the sister distros to take as much space...
for the Bora I'm working on just getting scratch up and working and everything on it..perhaps a couple of extra tools...I don't think there were a heck of alot for the the 770...but I'll put on all I can hunt down.
the same for Fremantle...scratch..qtsdk..everything I can think of for the n900...perhaps a few others if enough people want something and pipe-up and say ....

Here is the pinch ...the "rub" as Shakespeare would put it.
Scratch and the sdk in it's totality does not take well to the (easy) creation of live distros.

[edit: thinking long and hard that it if all the tools and installations were done to the home folder in the 1st place ...or even if now...everything devel oriented is moved specifically to say the home folder and every inferring link is shunted to the home directory...things should work fine for easy-peasy 1-click live distro creation/ replication directly from the running instance of the system in question....but that will be for another time to muck with...)
no worries tho...I'm stubborn... and I'm not prepared to abandon my goal..I just need at least the quasi-semblance of some fictitious seeming closure...for a little anyway..
Regardless..as things stand ..it can be done...it can all be put onto a usb or sd card ...by you...
See.. the easiest method for me to get it to everybody for now..and somewhat timely too ...after looking at the problem from every angle ..(and the fact an easily created iso would be smoother and quicker and more easily distributed...but that'll have to wait for the moment..)
..is for me to take the finished betsy~32's and clone them with say... clonezilla or G4L (and yup cloning does preserve everything nicely)...and package the whole partition in an image and throw it up via ftp.
It would be 1 download and then using the exact same tool..clonezilla or G4L to simply click and extract and mount it onto an empty partition of your choice on ..whatever...your computer, sd card, usb, some or all of the above...make a swap space..bootloader..grub, burg, whatever you please..use a partition tool afterward to increase the amount of free space to play with ..and well...have fun.

So that was the "meh" news.
It ain't stellar...it ain't a horrible situation that is unbearable either.
It's more like you get your banana-split with EVERYTHING on it...except the maraschino cherry on the top....kinda-thingie.
Given enough time and mean determination to bash everything into the way I want it..I'm sure I can get scratch and the sdk to play nice with easy-peasy 1-click live distro creation. But for the time being..that "cherry-on-top" will have to wait. I want to get the bulk of all this done....1st
Then I don't want to even "hear" the word "development" for ...(I don't know how long yet...) days? weeks? months? ...i dunno.
I just love/ hate puzzles..so I can't stop til it is finished.
So that is where everything is at to date.
Now I'm going back to my snort-fort.
I'll post when...I've strangled someone..hung myself...or finally finished betsyd32.
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