Looks like m wrong i though enlightment out of bodhi would be bloated i.e bodhi is tailored for enlightment
Btw m not taking systemd m taking about stability and to me that means smooth operation without hiccups and i faced a lot of problems with ubuntu 14.04 point update as using ubuntu since 12.04
mint is real nice but transition takes its time and has it quirks
i am just distrohopping now and man linux is huge too much choice ;(
opensuse and mint are in hitlist though for now ;