Do you realize that there's more than one person that still thinks it's lack of security, rather than operators or lack of simple tools that loads you up with malware?

Getting it is one thing, but you shouldn't need to be a geek or have antivirus programs to detect/deal with it. Look at majorgeeks where people have nasties that the best anti-xxxx software can't stop or remove...they tell you to dl hijackthis as do many similar sites.

Even geeks get malware, but not as often and it only calls for a special security program when it's a real nasty one. This is rare unless you tend to look at porn unlike the geek that leans toward news on CNN.

I'm not argueing so much as telling everyone that you can do yourself most of what security programs do without using them.