Thanks Gnunite, any idea where the repositories for GpsDrive and "proj" are; I shall experiment more....

Oh and do you know the url for google sat imagery in the uk, I have been looking at the html code but am new to this I think the answer is in this bit

{GLoadApi(["http://mt0.google.com/mt?n=404&v=w2.39&","http://mt1.google.com/mt?

n=404&v=w2.39&","http://mt2.google.com/mt?n=404&v=w2.39&","http://mt3.google.com/mt?n=404&v=w2.39&"],

["http://kh0.google.co.uk/kh?n=404&v=14&","http://kh1.google.co.uk/kh?

n=404&v=14&","http://kh2.google.co.uk/kh?n=404&v=14&","http://kh3.google.co.uk/kh?n=404&v=14&"],

["http://mt0.google.com/mt?n=404&v=w2t.40&","http://mt1.google.com/mt?

n=404&v=w2t.40&","http://mt2.google.com/mt?n=404&v=w2t.40&","http://mt3.google.com/mt?

n=404&v=w2t.40&"]);if (window.GJsLoaderInit) {GJsLoaderInit

("http://maps.google.com/mapfiles/maps2.73.js"

Thanks
kempja