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Originally Posted by nthn View Post
Again you take the independent existence of causality (in whichever way) for granted and even posit it as an absolute, but there is nothing to indicate this is the case (or not the case). All of the thought experiments like the 'brain in a vat' (which can easily be combined with infinite regress to say that 'Reality' itself is also an illusion of 'Reality2', and so on) are old and often mentioned only in passing and with a dismissive attitude, but they cannot be proven or disproven. We just choose to ignore them. Here's one juiceme might recognise:

"By your belief in granular singularities, you deny all movement - evolutionary or devolutionary. Belief fixes a granular universe and causes that universe to persist. Nothing can be allowed to change because that way your non-moving universe vanishes. But it moves of itself when you do not move. It evolves beyond you and is no longer accessible to you."

Also, the observer, in observing, chooses to observe. If he didn't, he wouldn't be an observer. But choice also sounds like it would depend on freedom, and freedom would depend on free will, but you're going to need a really broad definition of free will considering it's possible to accurately predict which choice a person is going to make based on their brain processes before you've even asked them the question.

I'm not sure what you mean by right and wrong.
You say I believe in granular singularities; I never said that .
You said it youself the observer chooses to observe. He might just close his eyes (read: ignore the reality), at which point it doesn't matter what he chooses (this won't make the Reality with capital R as in the "real" reality, not the perceived one, go away).
Denying existance of freedom in a universe (be it defined by singularities or not), implies none of your actions are any of your responsibility, and you are not accountable for them. Or in terms of entropy, being a system not generating any heat and just decaying into more stable states, without producing complexity, hence can't exist. Too easy!
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Last edited by tortoisedoc; 2018-04-19 at 07:01.
 

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