Right a few updates, took me 2 hours to reinstall conky (i had used NSU to re-flash. still the same)

as soon as i power it on, ram usage is maxed by trackerd, then tracker-indexer goes mental, and takes up (currently) 500mb swap.

managed to install rootsh, and have run "killall tracker-indexer" and that doenst seem to do anything at all.

will try post list of apps soon