yep, I agree with you there actually fatalsaint.

Yes, I think we do need to do the best we can to leave Iraq in the best way possible.

I think one of the reasons to be talking about this is not necessarily just to rehash old stuff, but to remember what can leed us into such a mess and also to realize that part of the problem still exists in the form of Iran.

My local conservative talk show host was implying that with Obama entering as President, we would be less safe. I do think he was saying that the consequence of leaving Iraq is that we will be less safe.

So, short of causing major calamity from a too speedy withdrawal, why does leaving Iraq make us less safe?

But ya, we do need to leave Iraq in a planned way.

But how much help DO we owe Iraq and how much are we willing to pay? At some point I think it's debatable on a deminishing returns basis although I hate to talk about people that way. Back to, 'well what about other war torn zones where many are currently being killed and displaced?'

Neil