well danramos quoted me upthread from a long time ago, thanks for the credit Dan. here are some positive I still see for nokia future long-range. India and Africa and Brazil and Indonesia will be very good for nokia, in my opinion, but i don't think they will be able to get China now as chinese carriers have been allowed to use the heavy subsidization model as in USA. In other parts of the developing world, price vs features will still matter greatly and an iphone is out of the price range of most everyone in these countries if it is unsubsidized. android+samsung is very problematic at lower price ranges, but I think some countries will eventually resist so much citizen data going through google and android still requires more expensive components to function on a level similar to a symbian phone. most android phones are also inherently more expensive with data usage(ie it is harder to use them completely offline or without GPRS) also, there is the impending switch to LTE by the largest US carrier, Verizon. Nokia will have phones on verizon sometime in the not too distant future, giving them a good boost. You can pretty well bet that nokia lte phones will have some of the best signal handling on lte, and specifically verizons, as NSN helped them build it. maps is still pretty good leverage for nokia, in my opinion. google maps on some phones allows some caching now, but still. Not exactly sure how they can leverage this better... I still think windows phone partnership has potential...laugh all you want, but windows is still king by faaaaar on the desktop and you know microsoft is not above trying some shady bundling tactics ala internet explorer again. if nokia and microsoft can leverage the windows desktop domination and office integration somehow, then it could be huge. Also don't forget that all implementations of activesync(mail for exchange) which has essentially become the defacto standard for PIM data(although I was rooting for syncml) are licensed through microsoft. the qt ecosystem is also just now germinating and could get fairly large. those are just my positiv thoughts on nokias future, there is enough negative already to bother adding any of my own