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Forum: Off Topic 2008-12-17, 00:58
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

I think this explanation is as likely as any frankly. It was just the shifting sands (the reasons changing over time) reasoning that I got tired of.




I think the saying goes something like...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-12-13, 01:49
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

fatasaint, Where did the money for WIC come from? Who paid for the coupons you got? What if you hadn't had parents to borrow from?

Take away those support systems and how would your story (...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-12-12, 00:56
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

fatal-

you had said something like- 'why work if the government is just going to give you money-' I said, paraphrasing myself something like- 'well because you can get more out of work than...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-12-03, 03:17
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

A couple points, A wealthy fellow has got to love the military a whole lot more than a poor fellow since invasion from the outside will change his life so much more than the equivalent event effects...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-28, 08:29
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

I really think in part they have succeeded in deluding the public by simply increasing the national debt instead of raising taxes and/or cutting expenses. If we, for example had started raising...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-27, 21:00
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Ah, here is a day to talk about the "needy"
Thanksgiving day. Happy Thanksgiving!

I think there are so many ways to go about talking about what Fatalsaint said here. I think he has outlined the...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-26, 21:27
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Thanks for the posts fatalsaint and texrat. I liked texrat's response about the business issues. I can elaborate latter given time.

Yes, we consider Abraham Lincoln geat, don't we. I would just...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-26, 06:00
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Hmm.. isn't the second thing you said there because of the first? Parents aren't taking very good responsibility, I should say some parents, so the child needs to tell another adult about what's...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-21, 01:04
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

yep, I agree with you there actually fatalsaint.

Yes, I think we do need to do the best we can to leave Iraq in the best way possible.

I think one of the reasons to be talking about this is...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-20, 07:37
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Funny thing Texrat. We both quoted Byrel on the same line. But I think my emphasis is more that Bush manipulated the country through the use of fear by manipulating the 'facts' as the neocons wanted...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-20, 03:09
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Oh, who knows for sure what Bush's motives where for attacking Iraq. You have repeated his case I guess.

So, in the context of this thread which I started by implying we need to get out of Iraq...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-17, 06:30
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

I found an article written by a fellow who has five years to live. He says some very strong things I can already see some of you disagreeing with, but I thought I'd put the link to his article here...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-16, 06:04
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Hey,

I just got back and I see my last post created lots of fun fireworks. My assertion that I could go buy an assault riffle for a thousand dollars was a direct quote from a recent news...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-13, 18:42
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Thanks for the support itschy. Although I totally disagree with fatalsaint, I respect him/you for holding and expressing your belief.
I think it's good to talk these things out with those we...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-13, 18:37
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

fatal, I can go buy an assault rifle for a thousand dollars today. Period. People can go to gun shows and buy guns without a background check. These facts are all the detail I need to feel the way I...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-13, 18:31
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

I hear ya. This sort of thing is just going to make a better environment for the illegal gun owners to do their thing. You know, wrotten economy leeds to the young seeing guns and drugs as their...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-13, 17:09
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Hi qole,

I agree with your comment. Are we not living through yet another example of the consequences of deregulation? The idea is, 'please just leave us alone, we can be trusted, and it will be...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-13, 03:44
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Shall we start the thead over? ;) I guess one thread can not the problem fix.

Cheers,
Neil
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-13, 03:25
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

I got to this part of the thread and before I lost it I wanted to highlight fatal's line here. I think it's very important because it gives us huge insight into him and perhaps his fellow gun owners....
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-11, 00:51
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Funny, I've kinda been trying to do that occasionally throughout this thread which I started by saying we needed to widen our frame of reference as it relates to safety issues.

Still, I think...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-10, 23:16
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Ok, we have a chance to get back to one of my original points in starting this thread.

Again, we just spent around a trillion dollars in Iraq for whatever reason. How about we spend some of the...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-10, 03:54
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

Hi General,

You understand we that talk about gun control do not mean banning them all together, right? I think maybe that's what gun owners fear, but it's not what I for one, want. Unfortunately,...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-10, 03:48
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

I love your passion. Really. Because in a very big way I totally agree with you. I don't want the sort of government you seem to be implying I want. Ironically, there are many in this country that...
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-10, 03:29
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

I'll let others debate guns. I think we both could quote statistics till we are blue in the face really. Although I do find it amusing you can just dismiss mine so easily and be sure you are correct....
Forum: Off Topic 2008-11-10, 02:58
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Posted By sungrove
Re: safety and politics

I decided to do a bit of research to support my original post- the idea that the framing of the safety debate needs to be dramatically widened beyond it's apparent current frame of mostly outside...
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