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Feathers McGraw 2015-08-01 15:07

Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
There is no manual page for pkcon installed by default.

I can't remember whether i installed the program man myself, but I use it a lot. Zypper has a manpage, but unfortunately it can't be used without temporarily breaking the Jolla store (anyone know why?).

Sometimes, having a local copy of a manpage is invaluable, and they don't take up much space. It's not always possible to do an online search.

Does anyone know of a way to install manpages for some/all of the system tools that come with Sailfish?

juiceme 2015-08-01 15:15

Re: Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
I think by default Mer does not include manpages on puroppse since the OS footprint is supposed to be as small as possible.
IMHO that is not really necessary as manpages really do not take up that much space.

Feathers McGraw 2015-08-01 15:42

Re: Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
Ugh. I can see the reasoning, and I guess the mer people aren't really expecting many people to use the cli, but I agree... bit stupid.

So I may have to build a single installable package of manpages for all the system tools that come with mer, and stick it on openrepos.

Now the question is, which other system tools need manpages?

Feathers McGraw 2015-08-01 15:55

Re: Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
Also related, I've noticed that although space moves forward a page in man, b does not move backwards (using TOHKBD).

Does anyone else have this problem?

peterleinchen 2015-08-01 17:29

Re: Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
But at least 'man' is pre-installed on Jolla (or I do not remember to have it installed manually.

And yes it is dumb to not have it on device.
So thumbs up for your idea and efforts ...

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b does not move backwards using vkb, too. 😡

and btw nano on my device f*#ks up text displaying so massive it is impossible to use as editor

Feathers McGraw 2015-08-01 19:35

Re: Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1478458)
and btw nano on my device f*#ks up text displaying so massive it is impossible to use as editor

I noticed that too (very annoying right now, I'm trying to write a spec file...)

Sometimes it displays text overlaid on other parts of the line you're on so you think the cursor is somewhere it isn't... do you think that could be a problem with the package, or something hardware specific? Nano is fine on all of my other devices...

I'm thinking it may be something to do with curses (which I think is a toolkit for displaying text on the screen?) - I've noticed that if I ssh to one of my servers and use certain programs like transmission-cli or yast, some parts of the screen don't update properly on the Jolla.

peterleinchen 2015-08-01 21:11

Re: Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
years???

Sorry to use your thread for my rant, but I just felt like that ;)
I still will use it but only because of its Gnu Linux flavour.

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and that was written on N9 which I hate sometimes/often for.its.vkb behaviour. :(
So since 2009 (N900) I feel like going down only. If it only had more RAM and a bit faster CPU ...


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above rant in short:
thanks for confirming that behaviour.
totally unsatisfied with Jolla HW (battery), OS (browser unusable, no copy/paste, unpredictable link touch reaction) and especially PR.
still going to use it but only because of its Gnu Linux flavour.

Feathers McGraw 2015-08-06 19:40

Re: Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1478458)
btw nano on my device f*#ks up text displaying so massive it is impossible to use as editor

Right, let's have a crack at sorting this out. I've compiled nano myself and uploaded it to openrepos, I'm thinking it's worth messing around with the build options to see if we can get it working. See if you can break my build, I can't remember what I did to mess it up last time.

peterleinchen 2015-08-06 21:33

Re: Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
Just installed your nano
with zypper in nano-2.4.2-0.armv7hl as warehouse claimed something about not resolved dependencies ...

First test looks quite good.

Feathers McGraw 2015-08-06 21:57

Re: Man pages for tools like pkcon
 
I just realised I uploaded the nano-lang rpm under nano, it should probably go in as a separate library. I bet that caused the error in Warehouse - it's "recommended" - not a hard dependency. Will add it now!


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