Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Hello. I have finally received my N810, which appears to be new as the ebay seller claims. I have a couple of startup questions:

The version of the OS is reported as 2.2007.51-3.

I have downloaded and attempted to install the file RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, which I surmise is the most recent update for the N810, but so far without success.
I have recently learned that the preprogrammed nokia sites are not accessible, so I tried to search this site for ways to do it manually. My desktop OS is Windows 7, but even if I had Linux, all needed files appear to have disappeared from the Nokia site, chiefly "Update Wizard for Windows". Could some kind soul facilitate that file for me? I would be most appreciative.

I was planning to take my sweet time learning how to use the N810, as long as I was quickly able to use it for my main purpose, the Garnet-VM emulator, but the file I obtained from a member here (garnet-vm_1.0.6b_ITOS2008_armel.deb) will not install, apparently I need an OS update first or the File Manager/Application Manager install will not work (I don't yet know how to use the shell for such things).

I am hoping the update will take care of my preliminary problems (the inability to install some programs, and dosbox not working properly).

Thanks in advance. :)

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update, why is the internet so slow?
 

Maybe, Wiki can help.
Best wishes.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update
 

the default browser on the N810 is severely outdated and slow. Opera is the only decent solution as well as fennec 1.0 which is still slow but better than opera for some pages

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update
 

Can't help you WRT Windows, but if you can boot Linux I see a copy of the old flasher tool at:

http://www.jakemaheu.com/flasher-3.0-static

It sounds like you already have the Diablo image--great.
The command line is:

./flasher-3.0-static -f -F RX44_DIABLO_5.2008.437_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -R

(Dang web form, that's all one command line.)

If you have trouble with "device busy", you need to stomp a couple of modules which are trying to helpfully run your device for you:

sudo modprobe -r cdc_phonet
sudo modprobe -r phonet

Enjoy. It's quite a device.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows
 

Thanks. If I can find a way to run a linux session from within windows, I may try that approach.

I am still hoping to find the Windows utility instead.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

The Garnet version I sent you was for an N800 device.

As far as I know though, it should still work on yours since it's almost the same operating system.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Thanks again. :D I attempted to use the File Manager to install, but it complained several files were missing, so I assume they are files missing from the OS. I do not have the command line instructions, which might be needed since I do not know how to install a program on the card (I assume the File Manager installs to internal memory, not what I want).

I also happen to have the file garnet-vm_1.0.6b_ITOS2009_armel.rar, which I downloaded before from the Access site when I had not made up my mind to buy the N810. Based on the forums I assume that is one of the files that will not longer work, though for some reason it says ITOS2009 instead of 2008, and it is a slightly bigger file. :confused:

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Quick reply...
You can read about flashing in Wiki.
I am sending an archive with flasher-3.5 executable. However, it is for 32-bit machine running Windows XP-or-Vista. I am not sure whether it works for Windows 7.
Best wishes.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

I thought I read in the release notes that flasher-3.5 is not for the N810? That's why I pointed to a 3.1 copy. Please post if it worked
OK for you flashing an 810, that would be good to know.

Thanks,
Andy

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

The one you posted is for linux, the other for windows. I will try the windows first, because downloading and creating a Linux CD will be quite time consuming by itself.

I hope I don't brick my N810 with flasher-3.5. Will try this afternoon.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

I don't think mis-flashing can brick the device such that you can't just flash it again. I've never read of such a thing, in any case, so I assume it would be rare.

Note you can boot an Ubuntu CD directly (no system install) and then do you thing from within its environment ("Live CD"). Keep that in mind if the Windows approach doesn't pan out.

Good luck!
Andy

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

This is what I got so far:

I have entered the following line at the command line (after copying the OS file into the same directory as the flasher, located at C:\Program Files (x86)\maemo\flasher-3.5>):

flasher-3.5 -F RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R

The response I got is the following:

flasher v2.5.2 (Sep 24 2009)

RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin: %m

No message about waiting for anything. My guess is this might be what they meant when they said this program is for the N900, not for the N810, am I correct?

I am downloading the Ubuntu iso image to try an USB stick install in the meantime.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Quick reply...
The Wiki says:
The Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool is a command line utility that supports N900 device with Fremantle 5.x platform releases and N800, N810 and N810 WiMAX devices with Maemo Diablo 4.1.x platform releases.
That's why I hoped it might help. I haven't used it for a very long time, myself.
Though, since Windows 7 can cause problems, it should be easier for you to boot Ubuntu...
Best wishes.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Yes, I knew it 'should' support the N810. I have now tried both methods, both have failed so far. :eek:
vandys is trying to assist me privately with the Ubuntu method, so I sent him the full result of my Linux attempt. I may post it here if we cannot sort it out (it is a bit long). :(

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

:confused: Odd, I tried the Windows method again, and this time I got as far as the Waiting window, not sure why it failed before. Unfortunately, unlike the Ubuntu method, the program cannot see the device, keeps waiting. May try different ways again, not sure. :(

I did not try the double checks from Ubuntu, don't know how to do that. :eek:

EDIT: when I choose "Take Ownership" (Windows Explorer), it fails completely. When I choose "Open command window here", it runs as far as the Waiting window. Just in case it helps someone else.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Here is a copy of part of the reply I sent to vandys privately, the result of the Ubuntu attempt, in case someone else wants to chime in:

################################################## ###
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cd Downloads
ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ dir
flasher-3.0-static
ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ chmod a+x flasher-3.0-static
ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ sudo rmmod cdc_phonet
Error: Module cdc_phonet is not currently loaded
ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ sudo rmmod phonet
Error: Module phonet is not currently loaded
ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ sudo ./flasher-3.0-static -f -F RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -R
flasher v0.9.0 (Jan 19 2007)

SW version in image: RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_MR0
Image 'kernel', size 1536640 bytes
Version 2.6.21-200842maemo1
Image 'initfs', size 2327808 bytes
Version 0.95.22-200842maemo1w38b3
Image 'rootfs', size 125435904 bytes
Version RX-34+RX-44+RX-48_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_MR0
Image '2nd', size 8192 bytes
Valid for RX-44: 0808
Version 1.1.16-200844maemo2
Image 'xloader', size 9216 bytes
Valid for RX-44: 0808
Version 1.1.16-200844maemo2
Image 'secondary', size 100736 bytes
Valid for RX-44: 0808
Version 1.1.16-200844maemo2
Image '2nd', size 8192 bytes
Valid for RX-44: 0801, 0802, 0803, 0804, 0805, 0806, 0901, 0902
Version 1.1.16-200844maemo2
Image 'xloader', size 9216 bytes
Valid for RX-44: 0801, 0802, 0803, 0804, 0805, 0806, 0901, 0902
Version 1.1.16-200844maemo2
Image 'secondary', size 100736 bytes
Valid for RX-44: 0801, 0802, 0803, 0804, 0805, 0806, 0901, 0902
Version 1.1.16-200844maemo2
Suitable USB device not found, waiting
USB device found found at bus 001, device address 006
Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy

################################################## ######
If it helps, the Windows attempt was obtained from a different computer than the Ubuntu attempt.

Thanks to everyone for all the help so far.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

The waiting to find your device message is fairly common.

The easiest trick on this is to hold and continue to hold the Home Key when you turn on your tablet right when you are told to do so.

Also, it would be wise to make sure the tablet is charging since turning it off and on constantly is quite the battery drain.

I would give you my outdated Windows version (which has never failed), but I just fired it up, and it's no longer happy like it used to be.

I guess it's looking for an updated version and then stalls which I've never seen before.

Maybe it has something to do with the repositories being down.

I'm not sure.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

On the N810, right? I tried that, wasn't sure how long I should hold it, didn't seem to work. :eek:

Thanks, at this point I am willing to try anything. :o

I dusted off my old WinXP system just to try it, it complained of not being to find the libUSB driver, my Windows 7 machine found it all by itself. Not sure the different Windows OS would make any difference to the basic flashing issue. :(

SUCCESS! Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

SUCCESS! :D

Failed on Windows 7 Home and Starter, Failed on Ubuntu, after an initial failure, succeeded in an old Windows XP machine I had been meaning to throw away. :rolleyes:

I was successful also in installing GarnetVM, just as I suspected, it needed the update. But after installing dosbox, the keyboard program for it failed to install, oh well. :cool:

But now that I have GarnetVM working, I feel much more at peace with what I don't know about this device yet. Now off to figure out the hotsync problem (and how to run VM from the card) . . . :D

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

For Garnet, copy and paste this into Xterm.

mkdir ~/.gvm/cards
echo -e "/media/mmc1\nRW" > ~/.gvm/cards/0

That will give you a memory slot on your SD card.

You should see a new folder called /PALM/Launcher/ on your external memory card where you can easily dump all of your .prc and .pdb files.

I can give you my stuff for Dosbox if you still need them. :)

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Thanks. I loaded this web page on the device, copied and pasted exactly as above, but I don't see anything on file manager like that, not sure whether I was supposed to see any result on the X Terminal screen. :confused:

EDIT: Thanks, the trick you emailed me worked. :cool:

About Dosbox, sure, anything that can make my life easier is always appreciated. :D

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Hello, I have been clicking around this site for days trying to figure out how to re-flash my N810. Many sites given me by readers were duds. Do you remember what URLs got you the Flash that worked???
So far what I found gives me only %m
So many sites are duds I am really just going around in circles. Reason for wanting to re-flash .. it seems like lots of junk is stuck in memory that cannot be removed.
So, any assistance would be appreciated. I am tired of going around in circles... not being a Luincs programmer. I like my N810 and would like to keep it for a few more years.
Buffalo

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

I recently went through this ordeal myself. I am a very experienced computer programmer, so I am experienced in giving and following precise instructions. I have never had such difficulty flashing a device, because the instructions are unclear. The instructions on the wiki for flashing the N810 are currently confusing, since the wiki has been edited to seem like instructions for the N900, which involves holding down the C key while turning on the N900. You have to go to the sites:

http://tabletsdev.maemo.org/nokia_N810.php

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-d...-downloads.php

with web browser cookies enabled and enter the MAC address of your Nokia N810 device without any punctuation marks in order to gain access to the files necessary to flash your Nokia N810 computer. This MAC address is printed in tiny letters inside the N810 case, which are revealed when you remove the battery. You might need magnifying glasses. You can also find the MAC address in the, "Settings / Control Panel / About product", window of the N810, which is easier to read.

Before you update the flash memory on your Nokia device, you should back up any files that you want to preserve onto an external storage device. The update process will erase the contents of the internal memory and file system.

Here are my modified instructions for flashing the Nokia N800 and N810 with 32 bit versions of Windows, which I believe are clearer and more explicit than the wiki instructions, since Nokia has stopped updating the flash images:

1. Download and run the

maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.exe

which will install the flasher-3.5.exe, Nokia Connectivity Cable Driver, Maemo folder in the Start menu of Windows, shortcut to the flasher-3.5 folder command prompt, and documentation. The flasher-3.5.exe program usually gets installed to the folder:

C:\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5

by default.


2. Download the latest firmware:

RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin

and save it to the folder:

C:\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5


3. Ensure that the battery is full.

4. Turn off the N800 or N810 device and unplug its AC power adapter.

5. Attach the USB cable to your N800 or N810 and the Windows computer, which will see your Nokia device as an external storage device. For the Nokia N810, you need a micro A or micro B USB connector on one end to plug into the Nokia N810 and a standard USB A connector on the other end of the cable to plug into the Windows computer. For the Nokia N800, you need a mini B USB connector on one end to plug into the Nokia N800 and a standard USB A connector on the other end to plug into the Windows computer.

6. Get to a Windows command prompt as Administrator by clicking on the, "C:\ Maemo Flasher 3.5", icon in the Maemo folder in the Start menu of Windows. This should be equivalent to the entering the following two commands from a Windows command prompt that has Administrator privileges:

c:

cd "\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5"

7. Execute the following program at the command prompt:

flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R

That is a lot to type, but Windows has file name completion like Linux, so when you type the, "RX", of the file name, you should be able to press the Tab key to have Windows fill out the rest of the file name for you. If there are multiple files that begin with the same letters, then you can keep tapping the Tab key until the correct file name appears. Note that there is no space in the hyphen in the, "flasher-3.5.exe", file name, while there is a space before each of the other hyphens on the line.

8. The AC power cord has to be disconnected from the right side of the N810 before you turn it on. Turn on the N800 or N810 device while holding down the Swap button on the N810 or Home button on the N800. On my Nokia N810, the Swap button is the black plastic button which has the white square on it on the left side of the screen when you hold the N810 in a landscape orientation, with the longest part of the case horizontal.

The flashing process should begin and end with your Nokia N810 rebooting. You can check that the process worked by looking in, "Settings / Control Panel / About product," on the Nokia device, which should show on one of the lines:

Version: 5.2010.33-1

There are references in the instructions installed with the flasher program to special steps being needed for installing on 64 bit versions of Windows, but I have no first-hand experience with that.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

QX773,
OK thanks,... but I might be missing something. I was unable to find or did not know where to look for :
maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.exe

I googled it but many sites came up with different files sizes.

I found this: RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
according to your instructions with my mac code in the 810N

so,...It might be right infront of my nose but not sure where to pickup the file you refer to as : maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.exe

Thanks for the assistance
buffalo..

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

I forgot to mention the web site where you can get the flasher program:

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-d...-downloads.php

I have updated my instructions.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

any mirrors with images ? got n810 i want to factory reset(flash latet image). any idea where i can get it?

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

hi,
skeiron.org seems to be down.(trying for past 2 days)
has anyone accessed the site recently?

any other known archives for the firmwares?
most torrent uploads seem to be inaccessible too.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

My my my ...yes.... skeiron is most definitely down.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

since this is a for-beginner's thread:

if on flashing an error comes up like this (full error below) (and my n810 showed a usb sign in a corner and stayed there)

Flashing initfs... Sending request 0x50 failed: Operation timed out

Without disconnecting or otherwise disturbing the n810, I just reran the flasher command as previous.
This allowed flasher to continue on and complete and then the n810 reboots.
Dont know what would have happened if i had disconnected at the point of error.

fyi, i was flashing the n810 on a mac.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

yarg! A mac ! :D
I don't know about EITHER of the main flasher's abilities with Mac's.
You may have probs with it.

Hmm ...the nokia software update wizard works fab on windows and the flasher 3.5 is great and works on linux fine...windows ok....but mac??? ...I must admit I have avoided macs the last few decades...it's enough for me to mess with windows and linux let alone adding Apple to the pile. You have far more expertise on the o.s. than I.

Unless the wiki can illuminate you concerning flashing on a Mac
http://wiki.maemo.org/Main_Page...
Only suggestion I have for you is say....running say ubuntu live on a usb drive on your computer..and THEN use the 3.5 flasher...OR fire up a vmware or virtualbox of windows or ubuntu and likewise then flash with the 3.5

Frankly.... someone else who understands "mac-eese" should weigh in to give you a hand on this one.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Macs are not that bad. Nokia has supported Mac's from early days. Flashers are available as well as some sort of Mac sync utility

But in short the problem is solved (just by rerunning the same command, without disturbing the usb connection).

I did follow this as per the wiki page
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_f...roubleshooting
where it says

In my case the error was different, but the solution worked.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Now that is good news.
Sorry I wasn't able to help much on that one.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

I have just ran into this exact problem yesterday. Luckily, I was able to find all the tools needed online on a single page. I have managed to harvest everything, so if you need any of the following files, just message me and I will send you the file.

1. RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
2. libusb-win32-bin-1.2.6.0.zip
3. maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.exe
4. maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz
5. maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.deb
6. maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.dmg

You would try it at your own risk.

Good luck.

-- Note: message edited for availability concerns. --

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Hi,

I'm just passing by to leave my mirror for those six files you pointed, probably I got them from the same source as you did:

Dropbox folder

It contains:

1. RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin (actually 7zipped at max compression, LMZA2)
2. libusb-win32-bin-1.2.6.0.zip
3. maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.exe
4. maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz
5. maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.deb
6. maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2_i386.dmg
7. libusb-win32-src-0.1.12.1.tar.gz

PS: I also got some other N810 related binaries on the website I found it (here), if someday it goes offline I got a copy of those too.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

Hi, you posted the wrong link... =P
It is written like WWW.go...le.com, but I can't figure out what is missing on the URL...

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

sorry to bring up an old post, i've been out of the scene for a while. I'm trying to start from scratch. I can't find anywhere to download the latest firmware to flash. anyone have a copy?

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

A few members have links ...
some as part of their signature...
browse and I'm sure you'll hit one...
If you don't find 'em ...hit me up and we'll get you sorted out.

Re: Beginner N810 user: how to flash/update using Windows?
 

please can you help to list most wanted files at :

http://wiki.maemo.org/Nokia